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Where does Wladimir Klitschko rank anong the all time HWs?

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  • #51
    Probably top 30

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Pirao View Post
      Because you say so? As I said, short of a time machine experiment, making assertions like that as they are fact, is asinine.
      Really? Which one of Tyson's 1980s title fight opponents do you feel is bad enough to be in Austin's league? Do I need a time machine to know Ray Robinson was a better Middleweight than Felix Sturm too?

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      • #53
        Ask when he retires, it's too early to decide right now IMO.

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        • #54
          bitchko aint ****

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Imhotep View Post
            Top 25.He`s beaten most of the top heavyweights in the world.
            Agreed 100%.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by crold1 View Post
              Really? Which one of Tyson's 1980s title fight opponents do you feel is bad enough to be in Austin's league? Do I need a time machine to know Ray Robinson was a better Middleweight than Felix Sturm too?
              No, because Ray Robinson's achievements are much higher's than Sturm's.You would need a time machine to say one era was better than the other though. Thanks for being obnoxious BTW.

              As to your question about Tyson's opponents, Carl Williams.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                No, because Ray Robinson's achievements are much higher's than Sturm's.You would need a time machine to say one era was better than the other though. Thanks for being obnoxious BTW.

                As to your question about Tyson's opponents, Carl Williams.
                Carl Williams wasn't a bad fighter, but he was chinny so he was as likely to beat Mike as Ray was Wlad. That said, Williams was a better fighter than Austin. Williams = stiff challenge of Holmes. Austin = life and death with Sultan. Williams > Austin.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                  Carl Williams wasn't a bad fighter, but he was chinny so he was as likely to beat Mike as Ray was Wlad. That said, Williams was a better fighter than Austin. Williams = stiff challenge of Holmes. Austin = life and death with Sultan. Williams > Austin.
                  Stiff challenge of a well past his prime Larry Holmes. Ray Austin could probably beat Holyfield right now, so what?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                    Stiff challenge of a well past his prime Larry Holmes. Ray Austin could probably beat Holyfield right now, so what?
                    Sad thing is, he probably can't.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Sad thing is, he probably can't.
                      Says who? Last time I checked, Holyfield was beaten easily by Ibragimov.

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