Seiously, I'm getting sick of this ****...

[IMDAZED]

Because he has a history of making excuses for not fighting certain top ranked guys:

Cotto - "he needs to get his PPVs up"
Margarito - "nobody knows him"
Williams - "hes managed by Al Haymon"

Now - Pac won't take the tests.

Why do you believe that he is sincere? Let's be real, if Floyd gets to the top again, there is no way he's taking anymore big/risky fights. You know this.

Now you're trying to switch topics. First, you said he was insincere because he didn't petition the commission. I guess we've abandoned that nonsense, eg?

[tredh]

There is a precedent with Floyd not making weight.
There is no precedent with Pacquiao failing a drug test.

And the state athletic commissions are sanctioned bodies that have the MANDATE to do drug testing, etc. fighters are forced to abide by their rules, or there will be penalties.

Weight penalties are contractual matters, drug testing on the other hand, is a commission matter.
Look, if Floyd is on a crusade to clean up boxing, or even just catch Pacquiao, he should petition to the NSAC to make OST mandatory, with NSAC contracting USADA to do the procedure, and the promoters shouldering the cost.

See, if NSAC mandates OST + Pac refusal = possible suspension/banning of Pacquiao.

If Floyd just insists that OST be a special request + Pacquiao refusal = no fight, and no punishment for Pacquiao.

The difference in consequence alone, should give people an idea that Floyd did not really want to 'catch the suspected cheat.'

Just about anything can be written into a contract. So drug testing can be a contractual matter. The reason they were negoiating the drug testing. The commision has a set drug testing standard if a fighters want more drug testing that can be written into each fighters contract. Just like the commision has set standards for glove and ring size but the if the fighters want it different that can be negoiated. Don't make the drug testing issue out to be something that only the commision has a say so in because that is simply not true.

I wish they would just make the fight happen. **** PBF said 14 days Manny said 30 at first the easy and real thing to do would have been for both of them to agree to a 15 day cut because that is right down the middle.

Athletes in all major pro sports get tested for PED's regardless of if they have been suspected of use or not. That has no bearing on if they are tested. Only difference is though that those tests are mandated by the rules of those sports leagues.

[Boxing Scene]

Floyd should be petitioning the NSAC right now for these tests. If they adopt the testing and Pac still refuses, then we'll know who's ducking who. Otherwise, quit playin and make the fight.

NSAC doesn't work for Floyd, so Floyd shouldn't be trying to make the rules. Just fight or shut the **** up forvever.

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Now you're trying to switch topics. First, you said he was insincere because he didn't petition the commission. I guess we've abandoned that nonsense, eg?

I didn't change the subject, I was asked a question and I answered it.

My point to this whole thing is that Floyd is making it almost impossible to get this fight made. You know what I said about him being #1 is true, he doesn't want any more tough fights. Why is he asking for 60/40 split now if Shane/Floyd beats Pac/Clottey in PPV buys? Everyone knows it will, it was basically billed as a one man show with no American representation. Here's why, its another roadblock, just in case Manny changes his tune about the testing.

[Chuckguy]

I believe its a little bit of both. His reluctance shows his lack of confidence in this fight. His fans just refuse to admit it.

Kinda like Pac fans refuse to admit that packy is on something?

[tredh]

Because it is not mandatory.

Paying 10 million per pound or fraction over is not mandatory either. Everything both sides say can go both ways.

[ARIEL LENOR]

Exactly , FLOYDIE should go to NSAC and ask them to change to rules.

[Chups]

Paying 10 million per pound or fraction over is not mandatory either. Everything both sides say can go both ways.

You need some kind of insurance whether you like it or not. Mayweather cheated Marquez on the scales.

[IMDAZED]

I didn't change the subject, I was asked a question and I answered it.

My point to this whole thing is that Floyd is making it almost impossible to get this fight made. You know what I said about him being #1 is true, he doesn't want any more tough fights. Why is he asking for 60/40 split now if Shane/Floyd beats Pac/Clottey in PPV buys? Everyone knows it will, it was basically billed as a one man show with no American representation. Here's why, its another roadblock, just in case Manny changes his tune about the testing.

He was asking for this kind of split before...but he AGREED to 50/50.

And I love how you include "just in case Manny changes his tune about the testing." How about...instead of worrying about what Floyd's next excuse might be, worry about what Manny's current one is?

[V.WEBB]

Because he has a history of making excuses for not fighting certain top ranked guys:

Cotto - "he needs to get his PPVs up"
Margarito - "nobody knows him"
Williams - "hes managed by Al Haymon"

Now - Pac won't take the tests.

Why do you believe that he is sincere? Let's be real, if Floyd gets to the top again, there is no way he's taking anymore big/risky fights. You know this.

LOL. Why he is fighting Shane now then?