Seiously, I'm getting sick of this ****...

[V.WEBB]

he was asking for this kind of split before...but he AGREED to 50/50.

And I love how you include "just in case Manny changes his tune about the testing." How about...instead of worrying about what Floyd's next excuse might be, worry about Manny's current one is?

^^^^this. ....

[V.WEBB]

I didn't change the subject, I was asked a question and I answered it.

My point to this whole thing is that Floyd is making it almost impossible to get this fight made. You know what I said about him being #1 is true, he doesn't want any more tough fights. Why is he asking for 60/40 split now if Shane/Floyd beats Pac/Clottey in PPV buys? Everyone knows it will, it was basically billed as a one man show with no American representation. Here's why, its another roadblock, just in case Manny changes his tune about the testing.

Ok, lets just dead the convo.

[Rickety Cricket]

I believe its a little bit of both. His reluctance shows his lack of confidence in this fight. His fans just refuse to admit it.

his fans are just too ****** and ignorant to admit it

[tredh]

You need some kind of insurance whether you like it or not. Mayweather cheated Marquez on the scales.

Thats kind of B.S. because if PBF weighed 148 and couldn't lose the pound Manny could always walk away from the fight. That in and of itself is insurance. Its all about the money we know that **** is not about no ****ing insurance.

[damned1974]

NSAC doesn't work for Floyd, so Floyd shouldn't be trying to make the rules. Just fight or shut the **** up forvever.

I don't know how many times you need to read this,but in contracts everyone has a right to a request.Manny had his pick of ring size (in attempts for Floyd not to be as elusive in the ring),glove size (Manny believes that his choice of gloves would magnify his power-even though the requested size glove from Manny was not normal in a ww fight),an even purse split (which Floyd could have compared common opponents and PPV numbers that would have worked in Floyd's favour),and yet another thing to detour Floyd from a fight-the dirty unheard of,largest penalty in the history of the sport,penalty for being over a fraction of the weight-$10,000,000 (keep in mind,Floyd has NEVER weighed over the welter weight limit)...So with all of these demands met and catered for to Manny,it sounds like a pretty good deal to take Floyd's request that would benefit ALL members of this match.With all these demands accepted that would favour Manny only,they seem to be an attempt to detour Floyd from taking a match-when he accepted these terms,Manny had to make a big drama out of randomized blood testing to get out of the fight...
If Floyd rejected this fight because of Manny asking for too much and making outrageous contractual stipulations-would you begin to place the blame game on Manny,or would you be a hypocrite and continue to blame Floyd...????

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

^^^^this. ....

But since then, he has said "Pacquiao can forget about 50/50 if my PPV does better than his". He knows it will and he knows Pac will never go for this.

And 2nd, of course I'm concerned with Floyd's next move. I'm a former fan. I want this fight, Pac fans want this fight. He is the next logical challenge for Pac. As a Pac fan, I am not content with Pac saying he is the greatest (which he never said), I want him to prove he is the greatest. It seems like alot of Floyd fans are content with Floyd doing it, but Pac fans aren't.

[Drunk Punch]

There was only ever one person ducking this fight and that was Mayweather. You don't become great by proclaiming yourself great, you become great by beating the very best in whatever weight division you fight in, and you do it over and over again. Inventing your own doping rules and by insinuation accusing your opponent of cheating without even a shred of proof is bull****. Its unsportsmanlike bulll**** and I don't see how anyone (even the most hard die-hard Floyd fan can see it as anything else). Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya etc were all man enough to face Pacquiao without demanding some bull**** test.

It's simple. If Floyd wants to be great, he needs to act great. Beat Pacquiao fair and square and stop inventing reasons to avoid this fight.

[V.WEBB]

But since then, he has said "Pacquiao can forget about 50/50 if my PPV does better than his". He knows it will and he knows Pac will never go for this.

And 2nd, of course I'm concerned with Floyd's next move. I'm a former fan. I want this fight, Pac fans want this fight. He is the next logical challenge for Pac. As a Pac fan, I am not content with Pac saying he is the greatest (which he never said), I want him to prove he is the greatest. It seems like alot of Floyd fans are content with Floyd doing it, but Pac fans aren't.

Arum just said that the Floyd-Manny fight will only happen without extra drug testing. Arum knows that Floyd will never go for this.

[V.WEBB]

There was only ever one person ducking this fight and that was Mayweather. You don't become great by proclaiming yourself great, you become great by beating the very best in whatever weight division you fight in, and you do it over and over again. Inventing your own doping rules and by insinuation accusing your opponent of cheating without even a shred of proof is bull****. Its unsportsmanlike bulll**** and I don't see how anyone (even the most hard die-hard Floyd fan can see it as anything else). Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya etc were all man enough to face Pacquiao without demanding some bull**** test.

It's simple. If Floyd wants to be great, he needs to act great. Beat Pacquiao fair and square and stop inventing reasons to avoid this fight.

Seriously, who went to the media a NUMBER of times and declared the fight off?

[Gutz]

Do you even bother to read the replies? I for one, am for the test. I am frustrated that Floyd and GBP don't bother to pressure the NSAC to make it mandatory for OST carried out by their trusted company USADA, and funded by the promoters. That way, a snub by a boxer would result in suspension/banning...

...but no, instead, GBP and Floyd are content with just 'punishing' Pacquiao with the fight not happening. If they really think he's a cheater and want to clean the sport, then by all means, make an effort to make OST mandatory.

Being contented with just making it a contract stipulation means they are not interested in actually making boxing clean.

Great ****ing post!!!