Seiously, I'm getting sick of this ****...

[Vasyl’s dad]

Pacquiao has reasons for his demands. Floyd Mayweathe Jr. came in overweight against JMM. He was supposed to weigh 145. He came in at 147. He cheated. They agreed and signed the contract. The contract insisted the weight to be at 145. He paid 600,000 dollars in penalties. This was swept under the rug.

Mayweather has no proof to demand OST from Pacquiao.

You left out a rather important fact as well,

Floyd didn't even try to make weight.

That right there shows his intentions were to never make the weight in the first place. We've seen guys come in overweight, and go back and try to shed the pound or few. Some have done it, some haven't, but they at least tried.

Floyd just ran to grab the amended contracts.

"here, sign this and I'll toss you a few extra bucks".

and before the stans run in chime,
"well JMM didn't have to take it",

they'd be right, he didn't have to.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that not even one single attempt was made to make the original stipulated weight.

[RedWhiteBlue]

Dude, i don't believe he's doing for the sport. He's doing it for himself, but why is everyone making a huge deal about his request, but silent about Manny's. Like i said, the Commissioner didn't made the 10 million dollars penalty, Pac and his team did. Why is it so hard to accept to be testing randomly? USADA stated that they wouldn't test both Floyd and Pac 48 hours before the fight, do you actually believe that a few teaspoon of blood would weaken Pac for more than 48 hours?

whether or not a teaspoon of blood will weaken a human will never be answered in a clear definition...NEVER. It's medical. Everyone reacts differently. And who knows if Pacquiao was to have blood taken at 3 am while Mayweather gets his done right before bedtime.

The ten million dollar demand is justified since Mayweather has recently fought over an agreed weight of 145 against Marquez.

Mayweather has no proof to demand OST from Pacquiao.

[Akinapepemo]

How come it is acceptable for Pac and his camp to asked for 10 million dollars per pound penalty without the commissioner permission? but it's not okay for Floyd to asked for a request of his own that he and Pac would be participating in.

There is a precedent with Floyd not making weight.
There is no precedent with Pacquiao failing a drug test.

And the state athletic commissions are sanctioned bodies that have the MANDATE to do drug testing, etc. fighters are forced to abide by their rules, or there will be penalties.

Weight penalties are contractual matters, drug testing on the other hand, is a commission matter.

Look, if Floyd is on a crusade to clean up boxing, or even just catch Pacquiao, he should petition to the NSAC to make OST mandatory, with NSAC contracting USADA to do the procedure, and the promoters shouldering the cost.

See, if NSAC mandates OST + Pac refusal = possible suspension/banning of Pacquiao.

If Floyd just insists that OST be a special request + Pacquiao refusal = no fight, and no punishment for Pacquiao.

The difference in consequence alone, should give people an idea that Floyd did not really want to 'catch the suspected cheat.'

[dde91]

Yes Mayweather Magically knew Pac would turn down a test he himself was willing to take, and many of the top athletes **Bolt, Kobe, Lebron, Armstrong, Federer, Williams Sisters, Phelps, etc...) in the world have taken. Also dont ignore all the different excuses Team Pac has given on why they refused, theres a new one every week it seems.

This whole Go by the Commission rules is Bull, No where does the commission require catch weights, and $10,000,000 penalties either.

LOL

Okay let me say this one time. Floyd does not want to fight Pacquiao. And let me explain. If he wanted to fight then he would have been in that ring last night. But he wasn't. He would have said **** the bull**** and tried to prove to everybody that he is better then Pacquiao.
Now he is ducking pacquiao and you nuthuggers are so blind. He wanted to make himself not look like the bad guy while DUCKING pacquiao. So this PED's is the only thing that could try to make him look good while ducking. LOL If you don't believe that then why didn't he try to clean the sport years ago when he fought all the other 40 fighters he fought. Why didn't he try to get Marquez to do the testing he wants????? because he is a scared lil *** and.

[dde91]

whether or not a teaspoon of blood will weaken a human will never be answered in a clear definition...NEVER. It's medical. Everyone reacts differently. And who knows if Pacquiao was to have blood taken at 3 am while Mayweather gets his done right before bedtime.

The ten million dollar demand is justified since Mayweather has recently fought over an agreed weight of 145 against Marquez.

Mayweather has no proof to demand OST from Pacquiao.

the reason is because Pacquiao is the **** and Mayweather isn't. And who gives a DAMN about the weight because Floyd wouldn't even come in over the Welterweight limit. But you know what .. **** MAYWEATHER ever since he came back into boxing he just ****ed everything up. LIL soft ***.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Dude, i don't believe he's doing for the sport. He's doing it for himself, but why is everyone making a huge deal about his request, but silent about Manny's. Like i said, the Commissioner didn't made the 10 million dollars penalty, Pac and his team did. Why is it so hard to accept to be testing randomly? USADA stated that they wouldn't test both Floyd and Pac 48 hours before the fight, do you actually believe that a few teaspoon of blood would weaken Pac for more than 48 hours?

Okay, but he could of asked for 600,000 dollars per pound, but he asked for 10 million dollars because he was hoping Floyd would declined, but he didn't.

are you ******, or just a dunce?

600 gs, is pennies when you're making 40 mil.

Floyd claims his demands are in the vein of fairness. Well, Pacquiao wanting that same fairness, seeing how Floyd didn't honor his own contract, didn't want to be subjected to the same bull**** as JMM.

Again, 600 gs, is pennies when you're making 40 mil. The 10 mil per pound is to ensure that he doesn't come in overweight ****ing up the fight entirely. If you don't see how bad JMM was screwed over, its because you have the guys scrotum blocking your view. Manny would not take that lil change and waste all of his training camp to get screwed over on the scales. The 10 mil demand is legit based on what we've seen with Mayweather tactics.

Now, again, why not suspect JMM of PEDs? He KOd two guys at a weight in which he only had those two fights, those two fights against career lightweights. Career lightweights who had never been stopped, ever. Mind you, we're talking about JMM here, the same JMM who did this at the age of 35. Then, immediately after, challenges a guy who fights two divisions higher.

I'll tell you why he didn't suspect JMM of juicing.

He doesn't pose the threat that Pac does.

Everytime a fighter poses a threat to Floyd since 135,

hes made excuses to not fight them.

But let the little dudes call him out and its war!


Now scram outta here with your 6th grade logic.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

There is a precedent with Floyd not making weight.
There is no precedent with Pacquiao failing a drug test.

And the state athletic commissions are sanctioned bodies that have the MANDATE to do drug testing, etc. fighters are forced to abide by their rules, or there will be penalties.

Weight penalties are contractual matters, drug testing on the other hand, is a commission matter.

Look, if Floyd is on a crusade to clean up boxing, or even just catch Pacquiao, he should petition to the NSAC to make OST mandatory, with NSAC contracting USADA to do the procedure, and the promoters shouldering the cost.

See, if NSAC mandates OST + Pac refusal = possible suspension/banning of Pacquiao.

If Floyd just insists that OST be a special request + Pacquiao refusal = no fight, and no punishment for Pacquiao.

The difference in consequence alone, should give people an idea that Floyd did not really want to 'catch the suspected cheat.'

Very well put. There's really no point to all of this if he's not trying to make REAL changes in the sport. By going to the Commision, you put Pac in the position where he HAS to prove himself. If you're trying to assert your authority over a guy who is just as big, if not bigger than you are, its simply not gonna happen.

[Gutz]

Floyd should be petitioning the NSAC right now for these tests. If they adopt the testing and Pac still refuses, then we'll know who's ducking who. Otherwise, quit playin and make the fight.

Werd.. Preach to the commission not Pac..

Pac said he will do what the commission says.. Not what Floyds says..

[IMDAZED]

Mayweather has his own fight to worry about. But it sounds like Pacquiao fans are beginning to resign themselves to the reality that no matter how bad Manny and Freddy claim they want the fight, they will cower once confronted with OST. Guess they don't want the fight that bad.

[niteshift]

LOL

Okay let me say this one time. Floyd does not want to fight Pacquiao. And let me explain. If he wanted to fight then he would have been in that ring last night. But he wasn't. He would have said **** the bull**** and tried to prove to everybody that he is better then Pacquiao.
Now he is ducking pacquiao and you nuthuggers are so blind. He wanted to make himself not look like the bad guy while DUCKING pacquiao. So this PED's is the only thing that could try to make him look good while ducking. LOL If you don't believe that then why didn't he try to clean the sport years ago when he fought all the other 40 fighters he fought. Why didn't he try to get Marquez to do the testing he wants????? because he is a scared lil *** and.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VThymRRUGDY