HORUS PRESENTS: WHY NoW???

[Glamour Puss]

Is there a chance Pac is on PEDs. Yes or No.

Nope.

I'm still waiting for Horus to answer me with an answer and not a question.

[shogunn]

If Pacquiao doesnt want to take a drug test for 40 million dollars.

EVEN If NSAC make random drug testing a requirement.
Better believe Pacquiao will not fight in Neveda. On the grounds the NSAC is bias and you pacquiao fans would run with that line of argument.

Then you guys would say why doesnt Floyd go to every commission in the world and make it a universal requirement that random drug test be required before a boxing match. And if Floyd did that... Pacquiao would probably retire claiming he has nothing to prove... and Floyd was scared to fight.
and then you guys would run with that argument.

Hope about Pacquiao take the 40 million and take the drug test and help clean up the sport.

If anything is clear from all of this, it is that Pacquiao does not want to take a RANDOM drug test.

Not even for 40 million dollars, which could help allot of poor people in the Phil.

Hell to think about it, he doesnt want to take a drug test at all...Thats is probably why he fought in Texas. Where they dont drug test at all.

haha, and you know that because? Manny said himself if its enforced by the governing commission he'll do it, but doesnt want to fight under the "floyd commision".



That still doesnt explain why Floyd doesnt present his case to ANY commision. So far its just his fights, and it looks as if he's scared of Manny. Why the sudden notion to clean up boxing after Manny f's up Cotto and is nearing a potential fight with the self proclaimed prettyboy.

The timing of this all is not a coincidence, floyd doesnt want to clean up ****. We've heard nothing of him wanting to protect other fighters from A-side meth.

And lets be clear, Manny said he'd give all the urine he wants, randomly. so again, stop feeding us these lies.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Nope.

I'm still waiting for Horus to answer me with an answer and not a question.

So there is no chance in hell that Pac is cheating. How do you know that? What supplements do Pac take? What is he taking right now?

[Horus]

The sport needs better testing no doubt.

But, I just have a question for point #2. When was Pac ever ordinary before the age of 25?

Jro, Point number 2 was a general point. Read it again.
I was writing about what ped's can do to a already talented athlete

2. Ordinary athletes to Extraordinary athletes


In theory, the people who are seeing the most rewards from using ped's & steroids. Are already extraordinary athletes when comparing them to the entire population. Less than a percent of a percent of a percent of people in the world are actually talented enough to participate in professional sports.

Meaning they are extremely gifted already, as a result if someone where to add power, speed, or endurance to an already extremely gifted athlete.
What you now have is not just an improved athlete, but in some cases in deadly weapon.

Imagine adding power,speed,and endurance to a athlete like a young Mike Tyson, Barry Bonds, Adrian Peterson, Lebron James, Marion Jones, etc, etc.

The the ramifications of what these kind of athletes could do to their opponents in the arena of competition should be unthinkable. However, due to the high usage of these drugs in this era we now understand. That PED's and steroids in majority of these cases work. Not only do they work, the turn ordinary athletes to extraordinary athletes. Furthermore, they turn once formidable competition into in boxing terms "sparring partners."

What makes this problem so serious is that the drugs that the users are now taking can not be detected with announce testing in majority of the cases.

examples: Mark McGuire, Marion Jones, Shane Mosley, Jose Canseco.
All known drugs users, however none of them ever tested positive for a drug test.

This is why there does not need to be no proven link between a positive test with steroids and PED's before we can have legitimate concerns about who could be possibly using these drugs. Such as the argument for Manny Pacquiao.

We as sports fans need to recognize that sports would improved and become is a lot safer place if athletes with the talent of Manny Pacquiao, and Floyd Mayweather are denied such advantages that PED's and steroids can offer through the actual threat of being caught through complete random drug testing.Then the REWARD would not be worth the RISK of being caught .

[HandSpeed303]

I made a thread asking who expected Pac to do all this stuff and everyone in this very thread said they DIDNT. Now they act like he was already on that level. Comical.

That means nothing....

No one know the furture Burner. If you did ask that question, then it was a ****** question.

Pac has improved...Why is that so hard to believe?

[HandSpeed303]

So there is no chance in hell that Pac is cheating. How do you know that? What supplements do Pac take? What is he taking right now?

See this is the problem I have with you Burner about this situation...

You seem 95% sure the man is on something...

Doesn't matter what anyone says.

[Horus]

haha, and you know that because? Manny said himself if its enforced by the governing commission he'll do it, but doesnt want to fight under the "floyd commision".



That still doesnt explain why Floyd doesnt present his case to ANY commision. So far its just his fights, and it looks as if he's scared of Manny. Why the sudden notion to clean up boxing after Manny f's up Cotto and is nearing a potential fight with the self proclaimed prettyboy.

The timing of this all is not a coincidence, floyd doesnt want to clean up ****. We've heard nothing of him wanting to protect other fighters from A-side meth.

And lets be clear, Manny said he'd give all the urine he wants, randomly. so again, stop feeding us these lies.

Manny also said he would take the test as long as it is not right before the fight...

What happen to him living up to his word on that?
should i post the video?

[shadeyfizzle]

Manny also said he would take the test as long as it is not right before the fight...

What happen to him living up to his word on that?
should i post the video?

where's the contradiction???

[HandSpeed303]

Truth be told, I would feel alot better if folks started treating Pac like they treat Margo.

Margo was only caught trying to cheat against Mosley, yet folk have said his whole run at welter involved Plaster...

Just say Pac has been on this **** his whole career and get it over with..

Pac was gifted from the start...Get over it!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

See this is the problem I have with you Burner about this situation...

You seem 95% sure the man is on something...

Doesn't matter what anyone says.

Not true. I said He could be cheating he couldnt be cheating. NO ONE KNOWS. All we have is our opinions.

If I think hes cheating and you think hes not.

Who's right?