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  • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
    Lol, you got to be the sorriest poster on here! Bonds was never proven a cheat either. Oops, that don't matter to you, I forgot.
    No one is proven a cheater according to you. I'm beginning to understand now.

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      And he'll still be a cheater.
      .....Proof?

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      • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Floyd has passed every test as well. Still I doubt him being clean TBH. As Thomas Hauser wrote this whole fiasco might just be because Floyd didn't want to fight Manny at all. Had Manny complied Floyd would have barked on the 10 million a pound penalty.
        Except it was vice versa. Floyd complying and Manny barking.

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        • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          Lol, you got to be the sorriest poster on here! Bonds was never proven a cheat either. Oops, that don't matter to you, I forgot.
          You're correct. In the court of public opinion, proof is irrelevant. He's widely considered a cheater. His legacy is tarnished.

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            .....Proof?
            http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-12-0...-michael-rains

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            • Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View Post
              There's already an asterisk but his name you dolt. Many people, commentators, analyst, and otherwise, refuse to even acknowledge his achievements.
              We will know when he is eligible to get voted in the Hall of Fame

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              • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                .....Proof?
                You've set yourself up to be owned again.

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                • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  Floyd has passed every test as well. Still I doubt him being clean TBH. As Thomas Hauser wrote this whole fiasco might just be because Floyd didn't want to fight Manny at all. Had Manny complied Floyd would have barked on the 10 million a pound penalty.
                  They'd already moved beyond that $10 per pound issue. Floyd agreed. He agreed to 50-50 too when he quite easily could have kicked up a fuss about deserving the bigger split.

                  There's no way he could have predicted a supposedly clean athlete would have such an adverse reaction to the possibility of extra drug testing.

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                  • Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View Post
                    There's already an asterisk but his name you dolt. Many people, commentators, analyst, and otherwise, refuse to even acknowledge his achievements.

                    Call me back in 50 years and let me know if the asterisk is still there. No matter what, there is no proof. You have to learn and live with that.

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      He gave you a thousand different reasons. Do you believe him?
                      Not really, but I dont feel he has to take the tests either.
                      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View Post
                      Because baseball is a combat sport correct?
                      After having every physical advantage over Marquez in his previous fight his cries about a level playing field seem hollow to me.
                      Originally posted by S.G. View Post
                      Deciding you don't want to take tests that might actually have a chance at catching a cheat vs. moving onto the next best fight after your preferred opponent storms off in a hissy fit.

                      Hmmm...
                      It just proves people change their minds everyday, I myself have agreed to things I later wish I hadnt its not enough for me to discredit his entire body of work.

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