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  • Originally posted by TheGoossen View Post
    Like I said Tarver was a good win because Hopkins moved up, Tarver is also good if you read about him on wikipedia and boxrec but if you watch him fight you will know that he just isnt very good. Glen Johnson is a tough rugged journeyman very 1d and the version of Jones that Tarver beat was very beatable



    Calzaghe has said he was going to lhw since the Robin Reid fight, it didnt look to me like he was in any rush to move up. Just like Hopkins wasnt in a rush to move up from mw. My point is why fight a career smw, when you can fight a lhw


    Again why is he picking fights with guys from two divisons below when there are lhws in his weight class calling him out. Betting odds dont mean anything a lot of people in the know, knew this was a bad match up for Pavlik who only brings a jab and straight roght hand to the fight.
    Pavlik is tailor made for Hopkins, his the complete opposite to Calzaghe who style gave Hopkins fits.
    how long have you been watching boxing, out of curiosity?

    If you don't think those were very good ones than I don't know what to say!

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    • At this point, never is better.

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      • Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
        Like Bernard is such a PPV attraction himself??
        Do you have any of his ppv figures at hand?

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        • Originally posted by TheGoossen View Post
          Do you have any of his ppv figures at hand?
          I know Bernard-Pavlik did 190k...

          Bernard-Joe was free...

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          • Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            how long have you been watching boxing, out of curiosity?

            If you don't think those were very good ones than I don't know what to say!
            Started at 87-95 stopped after Benn McClellan, came back around 2006 after watching a Toney fight.

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            • Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              I know Bernard-Pavlik did 190k...

              Bernard-Joe was free...
              Does anyone who does numbers like that have the right to complain? I mean, seriously. Roy called him out on that, saying Hops would never, ever think to fight Dawson.

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              • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                An excellent read, covers everything from Roy's meeting with Ali years ago, to the details of the contract (sounds like Roy got screwed). Very, very sad.

                Margaret Goodman (who succeeded Homansky as chief ringside physician for the Nevada State Athletic Commission) concurs, saying, “Out of all the fighters I worked with when I was with the commission, the one I felt the most privileged to work with was Roy. This makes me so sad. It’s not whether or not Roy can pass the medical tests. I’m sure he can. All that will mean is that they’re giving him the wrong tests. This isn’t just a medical decision. It’s a boxing decision. Roy’s ability to avoid punches and handle punches when they land has deteriorated to the point where this fight shouldn’t be allowed to happen. Roy is a fighter at risk. Red warning lights are flashing. Roy will take punishment in training and he’ll take more punishment in the fight. To think that this could happen in Nevada, which once prided itself on having the highest medical standards in the country for boxing, is a travesty and an embarrassment.”

                http://www.secondsout.com/columns/th...ever-than-late
                War Hopkins!!!...roy is a dead man and he knows it....but still has the hand speed despite the fact that he is past it

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Does anyone who does numbers like that have the right to complain? I mean, seriously. Roy called him out on that, saying Hops would never, ever think to fight Dawson.
                  **** even if he hopkins ducking him he's 45 years old, wont hurt his legacy in the least bit.

                  we'll see what hopkins does after jones though, he's got a few options.
                  Last edited by ИATAS; 02-25-2010, 04:40 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by TheGoossen View Post
                    Started at 87-95 stopped after Benn McClellan, came back around 2006 after watching a Toney fight.
                    so there's a big gap and you missed tarver's career for the most part.

                    He was a good fighter man, he deserves credit.

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                    • Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                      **** even if he hopkins ****ing him he's 45 years old, wont hurt his legacy in the least bit.

                      we'll see what hopkins does after jones though, he's got a few options.
                      He'll do what he's been doing since Calzaghe. Avoiding the best fighter in the division he fights in. Of course, he'll talk David Haye (like he talked Maskaev) knowing damn well Haye is contractually bound to several other opponents should he get by Ruiz. But the schtick is tired. **** or get off the pot.

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