Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Talks Manny Pacquiao and Steroids

[realitychecker]

it is more dangerous for fighters to go through needles. why is that? because the other fighter just has to target that small area where the needle was injected and you can instantly hurt him.

also, there is the possibility of the clot to go through the brain and cause aneurism... that one really kills.

i wonder why they just don't get hair samples. let's just say i hope floyd's got nuts and hair in there for testing.

or... have someone in the commission to be with the fighters while on training. 24/7 all time in their training.

yeh.... im waiting for the wise guys and med professionals to counter me here...

holy crap...

just when i though solly6 was the most idiotic pac fanatic on this board..now we have "jpunieves" giving us his medical opinion on the ill-effects of blood testing.

what's sad is i really think you believ your own BS.

while you're sitting in your SRO studio jerking off to manny's press photo, did you realize that OLYMPIC athletes undergo the same random blood testing protocols that floyd and mosley just included in their fight contract?

i have not once EVER heard ANY olympic athelete complain about getting hit in the location where the needle took their blood sample LMAO. holy crap that is some hilarious ****.

and let's just say you are able to respond with a hyperlink to an article that details some olympic athlete complaining about that...i will say this:

manny should be able to get over that needle pain for two reasons..

1 - he should be able to hit floyd in the same location.

2 - a 40-MILLION dollar plus payday.

wake up you idiot.

as i've said many times on this board - i am not a floyd fanatic. i am a BOXING fanatic.

in the past i really did like both floyd AND manny. but i believe manny did himself AND the sport a boxing a disservice when he refused to move 10 more days off his offer (from 24 days to 14 days) for random blood testing.
take your head out of manny's ass and survey the opinions circulating out in the rest of the sports world. the general consensus? manny did not come out of this ordeal smelling like roses.

[realitychecker]

because the request made was done in a rude manner, requesting it in a CONTRACT right after manny was being insulted by the crackheads.

by the way, is manny the head of the commission of boxing? the REQUEST should be forwarded FIRST to the HEAD OF BOXING, not to the other fighter. especially the CHAMPION.

if floyd requested it nicely to pac, without the crackheads' comments against pac's accomplishments, then pac might have agreed to floyd in the testing. guess what, this adds another to floyd's IF,COULD,SHOULD,and WOULD.

ok...so manny walked away from this fight because floyd was not POLITE?????????????????????????????????????

ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS? are you ****** enough to believe that? anyone - please help me drill some sense into this idiot!!!!! please!!!!!!

[switchsouthpaw]

solly6,

i've already exposed you on numerous occasions as a dimwitted, foolish manny idol ******. stop fixating on floyd's alleged "flip-flopping", his need for a PR person...and start looking at the big picture.

that would be a majority of the major sports editors out there believe manny walked away from this fight.

solly, you have yet to answer any of the questions i put to you a few weeks ago. ignoring them doesn't change the fact there'e still there.

what an idiot.

Solly is right, taking away any bias from either point of view coming from Mayweather fans or Pac fans--did Mayweather not say in his very own words that "Pac is nothing special and one dimensional" ONLY A FEW MONTHS AGO LIVE ON HBO AND ESPN....now when the fight presents itself he sees himself at a disadvantage against someone whom he described in his own words as "AVERAGE/ONE DIMENSIONAL".<----THESE ARE HIS OWN WORDS ALL UNREFUTED, VERBATIM.

If someone describes you competitively as average or one dimensional then it doesn't take a genius to figure that they believe you'll be easy work, now all of a sudden they claim to be at a disadvantage against someone who they claimed only a few months prior as being average? The fact remains that it's hard to take anything that Mayweather says as resembling anything close to credible.

[mike19727]

The bottom line here, is whether you like Mayweather or not, everyone should be all for cleaning up the sport of boxing and support random blood tests. With all the these athletes coming up dirty in numerous other sports, there is simply no rational reason to be agaist it. And the excuses from Manny, his team and his nuthugger fans have really damaged his reputation with the general public.

He's always going to have his hardcore fans who will never think he's on the juice, but the rest of us are going to wonder if he's clean or not unitl he takes a freaking blood test with no restrictions.

[EDD1]

OK class, todays lesson is on Floyd's invalid deductive reasoning.

Floyd's Premises A and B
A.) All boxers start of great and their abilities dimish over time

B.) No boxer starts of average and becomes great unless he is cheating

(Floyds opinion) Manny is a great fighter that was mediocre in the past

(floyds conclusion) Therefore; Manny is cheating

Can you see the logic???

[IMDAZED]

In 2000 Hopkins was ranked #10 by The Ring, in 1999 he was ranked #9; prior to 1999 he wasn't ranked in The Ring's P4P top 10 at all.

By the time Pacquiao was 25, he was already ranked #6, P4P, by The Ring.

Cool. Just wanted to point out that Hopkins was considered more than just a world class fighter prior to Tito, which you said he wasn't.

[Dave Rado]

there are enough sites and articles about steriods to find out the truth and what they do to the body. If you dont believe me just Google PEDS, EPO HGH and see what you find out about them. Or look up Balco. it will give you an insite on the drug. By the way the founder of balco had an interesting article about these three drugs, and how they are best used, and how they can beat a drug test. He also said the only way to catch these drugs is with a blood test. the test has to be random also. his statement was, if you tell him when you are coming he could beat any test

Pac agreed to random blood tests up to 24 days before the fight. 24 days of steroid use would not be enough to give a fighter an advantage and if he'd been using them before that he'd have been caught.

He would almost certainly have been more willing to compromise (i.e. agree to the 14 days) if team Mayweather hadn't been smearing him and effectively calling him a cheat. It was the smearing that killed the fight.

Plus the 14 day offer wasn't made until after the negotiations had already broken down, and at that stage Pac was furious and was no longer willing to consider any further offers.

[The Gambler1981]

Hopkins was not considered a really world class fighter until he beat Trinidad at the age of 36. And he improved dramatically when he changed his style. The version of Hopkins who lost almost every round to Jones was nothing like as good as the version who won almost every round against Trinidad.

Pacquiao's record up to the age of 25 was far better than Hopkins' record up to the age of 30.

And no one claimed that what Pacquiao has achieved is commonplace. But if you think that anyone who achieves anything that is not commonplace must be on drugs, then by your own logic, Hopkins must be on drugs. If you don't think that about Hopkins then it is serious and malicious double standards to assume that about Pacquiao.

You don't get it Hopkins is from the higher weight classes it is easier for a middleweight to age well then it is a smaller man, Hopkins situation is much different then Manny's he has been roughly the same for a long perior of time even before the Tito fight he was really good, the Roy Jones fight was a ****ty fight and Jones clearly won but Jones at that point was doing people much worse so you could tell Hopkins was someone of real ability (also if Roy Jones could not take out B-Hop there was no way Tito was taking him out), now Hopkins made his career really difficult by not playing the game so it took a long time to get a huge fight but who is to that was the best Hopkins and he slowly fell off after that as dipicted by the Taylor fights he still fihgts at a pretty high level but he is not at his best.

Maintaining a high level is different then raising up at an advanced age. It is not the same situation, so try again.

[The Gambler1981]

Pac agreed to random blood tests up to 24 days before the fight. 24 days of steroid use would not be enough to give a fighter an advantage and if he'd been using them before that he'd have been caught.

He would almost certainly have been more willing to compromise (i.e. agree to the 14 days) if team Mayweather hadn't been smearing him and effectively calling him a cheat. It was the smearing that killed the fight.

Plus the 14 day offer wasn't made until after the negotiations had already broken down, and at that stage Pac was furious and was no longer willing to consider any further offers.

It doesn't really work like that, if you have a window you have a window it can be exploited as it is a weak point. You do not use PED for long periods anyways as they can have damaging side effects, 24 days is like half of the training period so it could have a pretty large effect~. Also random blood testing should not even be compromised on you should just agree or this **** happeans.

I don't feel sorry for Manny he brought this **** on himself.

[Dave Rado]

Solly is right, taking away any bias from either point of view coming from Mayweather fans or Pac fans--did Mayweather not say in his very own words that "Pac is nothing special and one dimensional" ONLY A FEW MONTHS AGO LIVE ON HBO AND ESPN....now when the fight presents itself he sees himself at a disadvantage against someone whom he described in his own words as "AVERAGE/ONE DIMENSIONAL".<----THESE ARE HIS OWN WORDS ALL UNREFUTED, VERBATIM.

If someone describes you competitively as average or one dimensional then it doesn't take a genius to figure that they believe you'll be easy work, now all of a sudden they claim to be at a disadvantage against someone who they claimed only a few months prior as being average? The fact remains that it's hard to take anything that Mayweather says as resembling anything close to credible.

De La Hoya also contradicted himself hypocritically. Until this started he said repeatedly that Pac doesn't hit very hard. Then when the smear campaign started, he suddenly changed his tune and said that Pac hits phenomenally hard.

Also, GBP turned down Judah's request for any blood tests for the proposed Mosley-Judah fight, using the argument that it would be wrong and unfair to single out an individual fighter and that the same rules should apply to everyone. Now they have changed their tune. Pure hypocrisy.