Well floyd made a good point when it comes to boxers starting their career average and becoming extraordinary after 25... granted you can improve your boxing technique barrera did it but paquiao is not just a better boxer he has more power, more stamina and more speed.... he in some ways has a better chin, i mean i remember when @ 130 marquez had him rocked and at 145 cotto didnt even faze him he walked right threw all his punches... and the fact that he fought diaz @ 135 and was riped during the weigh in and then jumps up 10 pounds to fight DLH and comes in riped for the weigh in it does look suspect... i dont blame mayweather for wanting the olympic drug testing done and he was willing to do it himself to
I disagree he is not that different, and he has been with Roach for a long time. The only think different is he throws a couple different punches that rounds out things but he does not really fight any differently.
Rubbish. he's two-handed now, he used to be one-handed; his footwork and balance have improved dramatically, and his game plans are more intelligent.
He also achieved far more in P4P terms at a much younger age than Hopkins did. Hopkins entered the lower reaches of the P4P lists when he was 34, Pac entered the mid-reaches when he was 25. Pac won his first lineal world title when he was 19 - despite having been a homeless vagrant when he first started boxing, and not having decent training until he teamed up with Roach. To pretend that Pac was "ordinary" until he was over 25 is just ridiculous.
Ali aged just fine he was sweet ... he was not a young man when he made Foreman look like a fool.
You're missing the point. He declined really dramatically after the Thriller in Manilla, when he was only 33. That was after the Foreman fight. And even in the Foreman fight, although he still had his reflexes, and his brilliant brain, he'd lost his legs, which is why he had to resort to the rope-dope. In his prime he'd have danced for most of the rounds.
Another example is Eubank, who started to decline rapidly when he was 29.
And as I said in my previous post, Carlos Ortiz aged well, and he was a career Lightweight.
1) World Lightweight champion,
2) WBC World Super Featherweight champion,
3) IBF World Super Bantamweight champion,
4) WBC World Flyweight champion,
5) Ring Magazine Featherweight,
6) The Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year,
7) Current WBO World Welterweight champion
8) Ring Magazine's Fighter of the Decade Award
9) 2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association Of America Fighter of the Year,
10) 2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year,
11) 2008 and 2009 The Ring Magazine #1 Pound For Pound (year-end),
12) 5-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year,
13) 2008 and 2009 BoxingScene.com Fighter of the Year,
14) 2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year,
15) 2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year,
16) 2008 WBC Boxer of the Year,
17) 2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year,
18) 2008 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions,
19) 2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year,
20) 2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year,
21) 2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter,
22) 2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category),
23) 2009 TIME Magazine cover for November issue,
24) 2009 Forbes Magazine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th),
25) 2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade,
26) 2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade,
27) 2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year,
28) 2009 The Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year,
29) 2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight,
30) 2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked 2nd)
31) 2009 Bloomberg 100 Most Powerful Athletes(ranked #72 against Floyd's #91)
32) 2009 WBC Fighter of the Year
Get the fact strait! Pac wanted testing 30 days before the fight, Floyd wanted testing all the way up to the fight. Half ways is cutting that month in half down to two weeks. Floyd proposed 14 days but Pac wouldn't agree. Can't argue that.
The 14 day offer was not made until after negotiations had already broken down. That shows bad faith. And by then, Pac was too angry because of the smear campaign to be willing to consider making any more compromises. It was team Floyd's smear campaign that killed the fight, pure and simple.
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