Who has a greater legacy, Joe Calzaghe or Ronald Wright?

[Dynamite Kid]

Bernard Hopkins record in the 00's:
14 Wins, 3 losses (one to Calzaghe).

Calzaghe's resumes in the 00's:
19 wins, (1 over Hopkins), 0 losses.

Don't tell me Hopkins resume is heavier to the extent it's stronger to undo that record and still be better than Hopkins, because it's just not.

However, it's a much more credible argument I respect at least.


To then dispute Winky Wright, is frankly laughable, and embarrassing.

I pity whomever voted Winky and would be wary of crediting future posts as un-biased. How many of them prefer Winky to Calzaghe I wonder, 90+% I bet.

As for Mosely, not much different. He's not in the top 10 on that list (not that I'm saying it's a bible but it's roughly ok). A lot of his top fights he lost, and people would never be mentioning him without his one win over Margarito.

That's the bottom line.

Difference is that Hopkins actually beat Wink, Calzaghe got an unjust decision and struggled which just proved to me he was not capable of hanging with these elite fighters in their prime, he does not have the technical ability or defence to beat the guys in their prime.


The bottom line is he never beat an elite fighter in his entire career, fact.

[Dynamite Kid]

Calzaghe has a nice looking litte resume cause it has solid wins and he is undefeated, whilst Wink's is a little more sketchy because he had to fight the elite!! plus he got jobbed with bad decision in a few fights.

We know Wink was elite because he beat people who were elite, where is Calzaghe's claim to being elite?

[project xxx1]

Who gives a **** who has he beaten who was elite?

Who has Wink beat ? Mosley 2x, Trinidad, Quartey and arguably Taylor & Vargas.

Whats frightening? Joe has NEVER beaten an elite fighter whilst the other guy has beaten more than one.

Calzghe is undefeated beating C Class fighters like Woodhall, B class fighters like Brewer, Mitchell

winkey did beat mosley x2,vargas at jmw but they are b class fighters at that weight aswell.trinda he beat at 160 and how good was he at 160???? and we all know about taylor and winkey got a draw with him,youve got nothing to argue with

[project xxx1]

Calzaghe has a nice looking litte resume cause it has solid wins and he is undefeated, whilst Wink's is a little more sketchy because he had to fight the elite!! plus he got jobbed with bad decision in a few fights.

We know Wink was elite because he beat people who were elite, where is Calzaghe's claim to being elite?

who did winkey beat that was in thier prime at thier best weight?????

[IMDAZED]

Calzaghe has a nice looking litte resume cause it has solid wins and he is undefeated, whilst Wink's is a little more sketchy because he had to fight the elite!! plus he got jobbed with bad decision in a few fights.

We know Wink was elite because he beat people who were elite, where is Calzaghe's claim to being elite?

I do think guys like Wink get penalized for fighting elite fighters - and sometimes coming up short - but I still don't see how he can be placed over Calzaghe.

[Dynamite Kid]

winkey did beat mosley x2,vargas at jmw but they are b class fighters at that weight aswell.trinda he beat at 160 and how good was he at 160???? and we all know about taylor and winkey got a draw with him,youve got nothing to argue with

B class at different weight? I have never heard anything so ******. I can agree if the guy is going from MW to HW but 5lbs or so dont make you B class all of sudden lol


WTF are you talking about Vargas Light middleweight naturally.

Well he almost murdered William Joppy so....

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Who gives a **** who has he beaten who was elite?

Who has Wink beat ? Mosley 2x, Trinidad, Quartey and arguably Taylor & Vargas.

Elite and in their prime

Hmmm.

[project xxx1]

B class at different weight? I have never heard anything so ******. I can agree if the guy is going from MW to HW but 5lbs or so dont make you B class all of sudden lol


WTF are you talking about Vargas Light middleweight naturally.

Well he almost murdered William Joppy so....

willam joppy????please,come on,tell me something what has mosley done at 154?where wright beat,what has trinadad done at 160?where winkey has beat him,vargas you call that juice head elite haha

[Kris Silver]

B class at different weight? I have never heard anything so ******. I can agree if the guy is going from MW to HW but 5lbs or so dont make you B class all of sudden lol

So it's only significant if a fighters going from MW to HW? Everthing in between is fine, 5 lbs, 10lbs, 20 lbs, they should be roughly the same.

That's a much more ****** thing to say.

5-10 lbs does make a big difference to many fighters, some more than others. Heck, look at Winky himself against Hopkins.

As for the elite rants, it's frankly laughable. You've got one thing your just drilling on about as if it's the only thing to consider. When really it's just your obsession, bias, and exaggerations.

It's not worth debating with you because you'll never shift or be rationale. Plus we argue on the topic of Calzaghe so it's best left. But your argument is weak and very subjective, in the face of very compelling record, stats, slightly more objective rankings in the public domain. Calzaghe over Winky. Get over it.

[IMDAZED]

Elite and in their prime

Hmmm.

While I agree that Calzaghe has a greater legacy, your comment works both ways.