Who has a greater legacy, Joe Calzaghe or Ronald Wright?

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  • street bully
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    "What up Fernando Vargas?!?"
    I would have liked to see that fight at a catchweight.

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    • project xxx1
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      #52
      calzaghe has a better legacy but winky was a very good fighter

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      • Tsukiyomi
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        #53
        Oh god, the slappers. I'd say Calzaghe, Winky was a career opponent.

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        • Kris Silver
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          #54
          Originally posted by street bully
          Be real though Calzaghe is not the 3rd best of the decade. It's honestly crazy to have him over Hopkins. What was Mosley on that list 9th or somethign?
          Bernard Hopkins record in the 00's:
          14 Wins, 3 losses (one to Calzaghe).

          Calzaghe's resumes in the 00's:
          19 wins, (1 over Hopkins), 0 losses.


          Don't tell me Hopkins resume is heavier to the extent it's stronger to undo that record and still be better than joes, because it's just not.

          However, it's a much more credible argument I respect at least.


          To then dispute Winky Wright, is frankly laughable, and embarrassing.

          I pity whomever voted Winky and would be wary of crediting future posts as un-biased. How many of them prefer Winky to Calzaghe I wonder, 90+% I bet.

          As for Mosely, not much different. He's not in the top 10 on that list (not that I'm saying it's a bible but it's roughly ok). A lot of his top fights he lost, and people would never be mentioning him without his one win over Margarito.

          That's the bottom line.

          Last edited by Kris Silver; 01-16-2010, 09:32 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by street bully
            His wins at WW also make up for that.
            What wins did Winky have at 147?

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            • street bully
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              #56
              Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley, Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Jermaine Taylor.

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              • street bully
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                #57
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                What wins did Winky have at 147?
                Was talking about Mosley. His rank in the 00s boxingscene list is horrible.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by KrisSilver
                  Calzaghe just got 3rd best fighter of the decade by this site.

                  Where did Winky come?


                  Seriously, these polls are ****** at times, and it's even more frightening to see the poll results.

                  The polls might as-well always be titled,

                  "Which fighter do you prefer?"
                  Who gives a **** who has he beaten who was elite?

                  Who has Wink beat ? Mosley 2x, Trinidad, Quartey and arguably Taylor & Vargas.

                  Whats frightening? Joe has NEVER beaten an elite fighter whilst the other guy has beaten more than one.

                  Calzghe is undefeated beating C Class fighters like Woodhall, B class fighters like Brewer, Mitchell

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                  • street bully
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by KrisSilver
                    Bernard Hopkins record in the 00's:
                    14 Wins, 3 losses (one to Calzaghe).

                    Calzaghe's resumes in the 00's:
                    19 wins, (1 over Hopkins), 0 losses.


                    Don't tell me Hopkins resume is heavier to the extent it's stronger to undo that record and still be better than Hopkins, because it's just not.

                    However, it's a much more credible argument I respect at least.


                    To then dispute Winky Wright, is frankly laughable, and embarrassing.

                    I pity whomever voted Winky and would be wary of crediting future posts as un-biased. How many of them prefer Winky to Calzaghe I wonder, 90+% I bet.

                    As for Mosely, not much different. A lot of his top fights he lost, and people would never be mentioning him without his one win over Margarito.

                    That's the bottom line.
                    Enjoy the BS list, which is horrible by the way. Calzaghe is a very good fighter, but his only two big wins are over Kessler and Hopkins, one of which is disputed. Sadly Kessler has been beaten much worse since, and his notable wins are losing to Calzage, and getting annihilated by Ward. Also going undefeated against 16 unknowns does not mean anything. If that is an accomplishment, then Valero has done it.

                    For god sakes Ward has beaten the equivalent to Lacy in Miranda, and just beat the living hell out of Kessler.
                    Last edited by street bully; 01-15-2010, 01:57 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      Was talking about Mosley. His rank in the 00s boxingscene list is horrible.
                      Oh, I agree. I was referring to the significance of Winky's win.

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