Toney-Ruiz and why JT won't beat V-Klitschko

[legend]

well you use your legs as leverage when you punch. when you put weight on your legs, you push with yourlegs to get power and your tendency would be to go up. I don't see how putting weight on your legs then punching down would generate more power. It's unnatural.

I don't know the physics of all of it, I had heard that somewhere. Vitali is always punching down anyways. I don't think it will be a problem.

[m00ks]

I don't know the physics of all of it, I had heard that somewhere. Vitali is always punching down anyways. I don't think it will be a problem.

It'll be a problem when the inside fighting starts.

[legend]

It'll be a problem when the inside fighting starts.

Toney will have to fight off some pretty hard jabs, but it can be done. Even though Vitali will just wrap him up and lean his huge body on him, it can be done. Don't hold your breath for a Toney win in this fight. I'd give Toney a legit shot at beating any other heavyweight though, just to prove I'm not a Toney-hater.

[Konstantin]

id liek to know how exactly toney will get on the inside lmao

I think SturmRules has raised the biggest qus to everyone who think Toney will win. Everyone is talking about when Toney gets on the inside but the qus is HOW? And to the people who said Toney could see his punches from a mile away. Did you see the Ruiz fight? Ruiz was jabbing and Toney didnt even move, he let Ruiz hit him. How is he going to counterpunch someone with a longer reach. I think we need to post the arm length of these two fighters...

[legend]

I think SturmRules has raised the biggest qus to everyone who think Toney will win. Everyone is talking about when Toney gets on the inside but the qus is HOW? And to the people who said Toney could see his punches from a mile away. Did you see the Ruiz fight? Ruiz was jabbing and Toney didnt even move, he let Ruiz hit him. How is he going to counterpunch someone with a longer reach. I think we need to post the arm length of these two fighters...

I agree. Everyone keeps saying how Toney will beat him on the inside, but nobody ever gives a good reason why Vitali will even let him anywhere near him.

[AintGottaClue]

I think SturmRules has raised the biggest qus to everyone who think Toney will win. Everyone is talking about when Toney gets on the inside but the qus is HOW? And to the people who said Toney could see his punches from a mile away. Did you see the Ruiz fight? Ruiz was jabbing and Toney didnt even move, he let Ruiz hit him. How is he going to counterpunch someone with a longer reach. I think we need to post the arm length of these two fighters...

vitali has 80" reach plus he is 6'7"

toney has 76" and on boxrec it says he is 5"11 but i hera people say 5'9"????

[AintGottaClue]

I agree. Everyone keeps saying how Toney will beat him on the inside, but nobody ever gives a good reason why Vitali will even let him anywhere near him.

course toney fans wont answer they cant they say that to maek themselves feel better

[Sir_Jose]

*sighs*

Oh im sorry, someone please tell me when Vitali turned into Larry Holmes and developed this awsome jab people are talking about?

What do you mean no one ever gives a good reason why Toney will beat Vitali on the inside? You do know James Toney is one of the greatest infighters of all time right and Vitali pretty cant fight on the inside at all.

Do you know how James will get inside on Vitali? because he will make Vitali come to him thats why.

Vitali is far from some defensive genius here people.

[AintGottaClue]

*sighs*

Oh im sorry, someone please tell me when Vitali turned into Larry Holmes and developed this awsome jab people are talking about?

What do you mean no one ever gives a good reason why Toney will beat Vitali on the inside? You do know James Toney is one of the greatest infighters of all time right and Vitali pretty cant fight on the inside at all.

Do you know how James will get inside on Vitali? because he will make Vitali come to him thats why.

Vitali is far from some defensive genius here people.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ( deep breathe) HA HA HA HA HA

[Konstantin]

He doesnt need to be a defensive genious if hes attacking. All he has to do is stay outside of Toneys reach and jab. He has a nice hard jab, better than what Ruiz was throwing at least...