Pacquiao PEDs discussion.

[R.M {7}]

true they dont give u skills......but he doesnt really has any, think about it

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Really? he doesn't have any? Are you on drugs? Are you really ****ing serious?

when somebody wants to fight him, he wins because he is quicker, and somehow some way hits much harder, throwing all kinds of weird combinations,

You're an idiot. You just contradicted yourself.

[Drgamma]

That what mark mcgwire said about hitting. I'm sure that PED made singles/doubles in home runs. Just like a stong left into a KO. I'm not saying he used but damn this has been the era of PED to raise lots of questions.

[JulVal]

true they dont give u skills......but he doesnt really has any, think about it

when somebody wants to fight him, he wins because he is quicker, and somehow some way hits much harder, throwing all kinds of weird combinations, but they are fighting not boxing, when cotto was boxing, he was out skilling manny easily, he got hit with a tuff one and decided to fight and well.....u see the result, manny is a great fighter sure but someone who has great boxing skills??? no sir

im sorry man, but when u take a shot from miguel freakin cotto straight flush on ur face, and u say "come on i want more" people are gonna be su****ious, a little man takin shots from a real welter walkin thru them basically, idk just seems strange

the thing is with people on this board, they forget this sport is called boxing, which is to hit and not get hit, when manny fights a boxer he struggles plain and simple,

im not saying he doesnt know what he is doing in there, im just saying if u take a well disciplined boxer against manny, its gonna be a real ruff time,

the way he "fights" ped's or or whatever are perfect for him.....

Doesn't have any skills? Doesn't know how to box? That may have been true when he was campaining early on during lower weight classess but have you seen Manny Pacquiao lately? Have you seen his fights with Diaz? Oscar? and Hatton? Or have you just seen the Cotto fight? Didn't you notice how he was able to box properly now? How he doesn't so much rely on his left straight too much anymore? How the jab jab jab left straight is not the only weapon he has anymore?

Manny boxes. He moves in and out, he dodges punches. He has rarely been hit ever since he the Diaz fight. People know that, people acknowledge that.
People were even stating that Pacquiao has never been hit hard ever since the Marquez fight, they used that argument to make Cotto the first one to give Pacquiao a beating after serveral years.

True that his boxing skills may not be the best or may not even be that great, but he was able to combine his being a brawler and boxing skills thus the great improvement.

Oh and pacquiao never had a one punch KO power.

He KO's through accumulation of punches. I thought that has been established for a long time now? I mean come on, how many power punches does Pacquiao connect versus his opponents connecting flush shots on him?

[Hijo de Dios]

PEDs won't give you boxing skills.
PEDs won't teach you to punch using both hands.
PEDs won't teach you how to move in and out to avoid getting punched.

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Those things are all learned and developed in training. It takes long, hard work to develop those things.

PED's allow you to train longer and harder. And to recover faster. Everubody (inc Moorer just this week) comments on how long and hard Manny works in training.

You have to train long and hard to get better
Steroids help you train long and hard.
Manny trains long and hard.


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[jrosales13]

Those things are all learned and developed in training. It takes long, hard work to develop those things.

PED's allow you to train longer and harder. And to recover faster. Everubody (inc Moorer just this week) comments on how long and hard Manny works in training.

You have to train long and hard to get better
Steroids help you train long and hard.
Manny trains long and hard.


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But, you can say thing about Floyd can't you? Everything you just mentioned about Pac, Floyd does and with the same intensity...

[wleterbelt]

Originally Posted by Hijo de Dios View Post
Those things are all learned and developed in training. It takes long, hard work to develop those things.

PED's allow you to train longer and harder. And to recover faster. Everubody (inc Moorer just this week) comments on how long and hard Manny works in training.

You have to train long and hard to get better
Steroids help you train long and hard.
Manny trains long and hard.


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But, you can say thing about Floyd can't yo

But, you can say thing about Floyd can't you? Everything you just mentioned about Pac, Floyd does and with the same intensity...

lol poor guy is owned here...

[MexicanMauler]

this is what ******s actually believe.

[iHateThePacMan]

But, you can say thing about Floyd can't you? Everything you just mentioned about Pac, Floyd does and with the same intensity...

it would a biatch if floyd was the one using peds

[JulVal]

Those things are all learned and developed in training. It takes long, hard work to develop those things.

PED's allow you to train longer and harder. And to recover faster. Everubody (inc Moorer just this week) comments on how long and hard Manny works in training.

You have to train long and hard to get better
Steroids help you train long and hard.
Manny trains long and hard.
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You obvious don't have enough brain cells to even read do you? He has always been training hard. Ever since he lost to Morales. His training might have not been as intense as is today, reason is he was dehydrating himself.

You train less when you feel weak, you aren't focused if you are hungry. Think about that for a moment people!

Try not eating anything for 2 days and train, do cardios, push ups, weight trainings. How would you feel?

Now try eating tons of food, say 9000 calories perhaps. Wouldn't you have more energy on training? Stop being a ****** and use your logic.

Stop believing everything put in front of you by the ****ing media and some ****** crackhead. I bet if you lived back at those times, you'd believe that the world is flat.

But, you can say thing about Floyd can't you? Everything you just mentioned about Pac, Floyd does and with the same intensity...

I agree. I don't understand these people. Why can't they say the same for Floyd? It is a known fact now that both fighters has started at 106 pounds when they were teenagers yet Floyd doesnt get any question marks being able to grow faster and even reaching in for the 154 weight division, yet Pacquiao who's max weight so far is 144 does?

[JulVal]

this is what ******s actually believe.

Or maybe ******s actually don't want to look into the TRUTH?
Maybe ******s believe everything they ****ing hear especially on the internet.

Use some common sense. If you have anything intelligent to say say it. Argue or stay a ****** forever.