This Video will forever **** on *******s opinion about the roid allegations!

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  • VoodooChild
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    #161
    Originally posted by damned1974
    You should note that your example doesn't prove he is or isn't using substances.It is possible to look bad at lower weights and have your abilities magnified by substance abuse and not draining weight...I think the correct stance on this issue is to not assume he is or isn't using.Play more of an observer's role instead of a supporter of someone you do not know is guilty or not.It is ok to speculate (the law uses speculation as a way to form and connect motives),but not acceptable to the law to condemn before being guilty.Su****ion is different than guilt...it allows freedom to prove your innocence or guilt...
    Sorry, I didn't see this when I responded to your other message. You see, this has been one of the pillars of the steroid argument. People say that no one can look that good while going up in weight, well when we find others that have, it demolishes that argument.

    So far the speculation has been, at least in my observation based on misinformation and jealousy. Also, Manny does not have to prove his innocence, his record has been impeccable and he has passed every test of every governing body he has taken.

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    • Easy-E
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      #162
      Originally posted by one_two_puncher
      on what part was I taking down Mayweather?.
      All im saying is Pacquiao don't deserve the **** He's getting from everyone.
      and about how biased the video was.
      but nothing against Mayweather in my post.

      I even put Mayweather's point in the whole drug testing crap.
      i do not think Manny deserved the **** he was getting from people until he deliberately denied the random testing with a 14 day window before the fight.

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        #163
        Originally posted by VoodooChild
        Sorry, I didn't see this when I responded to your other message. You see, this has been one of the pillars of the steroid argument. People say that no one can look that good while going up in weight, well when we find others that have, it demolishes that argument.

        So far the speculation has been, at least in my observation based on misinformation and jealousy. Also, Manny does not have to prove his innocence, his record has been impeccable and he has passed every test of every governing body he has taken.
        true. but so did shane mosley and tommy morrison. they were known steroid users.
        This does not, of course, mean that Manny is using, it only means that people who are using steroids may not necessarily get caught.

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        • VoodooChild
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          #164
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          true. but so did shane mosley and tommy morrison. they were known steroid users.
          This does not, of course, mean that Manny is using, it only means that people who are using steroids may not necessarily get caught.
          So then why single out Manny?

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          • pasawayako
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            #165
            great video, this makes me really believe that floyd was really using those steroids. thanks man.

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            • Don Mac
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              #166
              I havent read the whole thread but the video is altering facts and producing theories-

              It quotes Ariza as saying that Manny doesnt know what he is given therefor how do we know hes not on roids

              FACT

              Ariza actually goes on to say that what Manny takes are (legal) supplements- this is conveniently not mentioned in the video!!!


              THEORY

              Manny was taking PEDS for the Diaz fight

              FACT

              Manny was struggling to make 130 and JMM was a world class opponent - 135 was much more comfortable for Manny and Diaz is just not in JMMs league

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              • Bee Keepz
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                #167
                Originally posted by Sugar Jay
                No matter what excuse you guys bring up, no matter what way you tryy to flip it on floyd, whatever the reason is...this video makes you *******s take a Major L......This fight not happening is all on Manny Pacquiao



                sorry dom, im just really loving this vid......
                I can tell this dude has NEVER, EVER cut weight or put on a glove. Whatever makes you feel better.

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                • MIT.Engineer
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                  #168
                  what is ****ing new with this video.. all of his points has been discussed and debated a million time here in boxingscene..

                  video creator obviously is a *****..

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                  • Nuurzhaelan
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by z0jo
                    this is just propaganda from biased and nationalistic americans.

                    btw im not even a fan of pac but just saying it like I see it.
                    And you are seeing it precisely how you want to see it.

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                    • Calilloyd
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Gutz
                      Agreed..

                      It make me think that all boxer are on Roids.. including Mayweather..
                      Yet Mayweather was willing to be tested for that. So that means you should suspect Manny more since he declined.

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