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  • John Hue
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    #181
    It is a good video and makes me think drug use in sport maybe more wide spread than I thought. i get the feeling Tiger woods has been using stuff to bulk up at some point and PEds in comps. if the person just looks different that seems to be the give away hat something is going on. I can get a good idea when I go to a body building gym who is on stuff just by looking at them.

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    • Khalid X
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      #182
      Not trying to discredit him but some of the stuff on there is misleading. I would go into detail, but It would be in vain as people will believe what they want to believe. At the end of the day, the fight is not happening and won't happen for another year or so. While Pacquiao continues to cement himself as an ATG, Floyd and his fans will just be reduced to making baseless accusations while defending b.s. fights with bums like campbell and hatton.

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      • p4p-champ
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        #183
        Originally posted by Lady Fan
        There are no dots to connect.

        OPINIONS ARE NOT FACTS. This Conspiracy Theory "Hobbyist" is just trying to implant su****ion into the minds of "GULLIBLE" people. Are you gullible p4p-champ?




        Trying to implant su****ions? These are opinions that are shared by a lot of people and Pacman has helped to make them with his own actions. Its clear you can't see reality for it is because you wont take the Pacman goggles off.
        Last edited by p4p-champ; 01-14-2010, 09:58 AM.

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        • badboypeenoy
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          #184
          Watched the video. Lots of holes but it does make one think.

          The way I see it,if you're clean and you're being unjustly slandered or libeled, you have an option to sue.

          You cannot be forced to a situation where you don't have a choice but to subject yourself in a procedure that isn't necessary or required by the governing body of the sport. One should have the right to say "no," move on and look for an arrangement that is more to his liking - this is what Pacquiao did, and got the Clottey fight.

          If the fans don't like the decision, and they perceive it as "hiding something," they can show their displeasure by boycotting his fights unless he subjects himself to random testing...and while at it, boycott every PPV that doesn't adopt this testing as well. At least show that Pacquiao isn't singled out.

          If the fans think that the tests currently employed in boxing is inadequate to protect the fighters in general, ask for a reform.

          Also, since according to the video, people don't have a way of knowing who juices or not, or whether the tests that are available can, without a shadow of a doubt, determine if somebody is on PEDs, the only ones that can protect the fighters are the fighters themselves. They are the ones that would eventually be signing on the dotted line. If Mayweather doesn't want to get in the ring with Pacquiao because he thinks he is juicing (which he thinks would put him in a disadvantage) then don't fight him. Try Cotto, Margarito or Williams and see if they would accept your blood testing protocol. If they do, then maybe Pacquiao would also agree to it in the future.

          If every top-level boxer, trainer, nutritionist, manager knows that the system can be cheated; and that PEDs are readily available if you know the right people and if you have the money; then EVERYONE is a potential user; and that includes Mayweather who surprisingly knows the "cycles" and the need for the tests to be "random" and all that. Are we even sure that he didn't use this knowledge of the testing loopholes to gain advantage over other fighters in his past fights? Are we sure that Hopkins' longevity is all-natural?

          I'm concerned, but at the same time glad that despite this apparent "ineptitude" of the boxing commission to police its ranks, exciting fights were made and are being made on the basis of fighters mutual respect and honor.

          Of course people would say that maybe the fighter just signed because of the money, but sometimes, when the choice is between money and living the rest of your life as a vegetable, its always good to know that no amount of public clamor can force you to take a fight you don't think you'll be at your 100%.
          Last edited by badboypeenoy; 01-14-2010, 10:00 AM.

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          • MindBat
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            #185
            Every athlete is given the benefit of the doubt and unfortunately, the majority are competing in the era of performance enhancers. The dark cloud of su****ion is always lingering above any athlete.

            If an athlete is suspect of being on any PEDs, especially when he/she is well known and in the public eye often, then it is his responsibility to set the inquiring minds at ease by doing everything in his/her power to prove they are clean.

            If history is any indication, the nature of the beats is that when people become aware of some alleged wrongdoing by any celebrity, they tend to magnify the issue with the help of the public media. Questions are raised and curiosity rears its head, then the witch hunt begins.

            It is up to the athlete to decide the best course to take to prove his innocence, then let chips fall where they may in the long run.

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            • southcentralcar
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              #186
              FACT: Pacman will always be a roid suspect and thats **** legacy

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              • badboypeenoy
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                #187
                Originally posted by MindBat
                Every athlete is given the benefit of the doubt and unfortunately, the majority are competing in the era of performance enhancers. The dark cloud of su****ion is always lingering above any athlete.

                If an athlete is suspect of being on any PEDs, especially when he/she is well known and in the public eye often, then it is his responsibility to set the inquiring minds at ease by doing everything in his/her power to prove they are clean.

                If history is any indication, the nature of the beats is that when people become aware of some alleged wrongdoing by any celebrity, they tend to magnify the issue with the help of the public media. Questions are raised and curiosity rears its head, then the witch hunt begins.

                It is up to the athlete to decide the best course to take to prove his innocence, then let chips fall where they may in the long run.
                True. But in this case, Pacquiao deciding to pursue this direction could mean Pacquiao entering the fight not in 100% (if we go with his claim that such procedures makes him weak; let's give him that benefit of the doubt).

                Let's now say that OK, "for the fans" Pacquiao subjects himself to this testing. If he wins fine, but if Pacquiao loses, people might attribute that to an inability to use PEDs precisely because of the testing. Those allegations will not go away my friend, and Pacquiao would be wishing he didn't agree to the testing in the first place.

                Floyd in paper already has lots of physical/skill level advantages going into the fight, I for one, want to at least have him face a Pacquiao who is in his 100%. We all want this fight to happen, maybe Mayweather also needs to realize that Pacquiao is in a situation where he cannot accept such demands. As it is, the 24-day window is a win-win situation for Floyd already. Pacquiao wins, it is because he made full use of the 24-day window, but if Pacquiao lost, Floyd beat him "under any circumstances.

                The ball has always been in Floyds court. This fight is his to decide to take.
                Last edited by badboypeenoy; 01-14-2010, 11:33 AM.

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                • PR13
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                  #188
                  Wao, Right on Point.

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                  • Sugar Jay
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by southcentralcar
                    FACT: Pacman will always be a roid suspect and thats **** legacy
                    ^^^^pretty much...thats all matters..hes now the barry bonds of boxing...unfortunatley

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                    • rommel357
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                      #190
                      LOL! You have to be pretty gullible to believe this video. It's nothing more than what Mayweather Sr. have been saying. Basically it's just more speculation and fasle accusations, even worst, it's just another mans opinion. And the fact that he got some of the facts completely wrong makes this video even less credible. Show facts that are directly related, not opinions.

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