This Video will forever **** on *******s opinion about the roid allegations!

[MindBat]

random blood tests were NOT in the original contract. That's something they did not agree to. If they would've then we wouldn't be having this argument right now and Pacquiao would've been forced to take them whether he liked it or not.

Do you have the link to the source which states that it was not in the original contract?

[Sin City]

The problem lies with how you have your post per page setting set at? Page three? It could mean post 30 or post 120. I can't seem to find your post that you are referring to?

sorry.. I forget that not everyone has it at 40 posts per page hahaa
It's post number #119


might as well just repost it here:

His name came up during an Orlando raid:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eld/index.html

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...idence_ag.html

[Sin City]

Do you have the link to the source which states that it was not in the original contract?

do you have the link to where it states it was?
because as far as I know.. once you AGREE and SIGN to do something you HAVE to do it whether you like it or not.

[damned1974]

Billy Conn was getting knocked out at lighter weight divisions, he moved up and face Joe Louis and went 13 rounds. Did he use PED's?

You should note that your example doesn't prove he is or isn't using substances.It is possible to look bad at lower weights and have your abilities magnified by substance abuse and not draining weight...I think the correct stance on this issue is to not assume he is or isn't using.Play more of an observer's role instead of a supporter of someone you do not know is guilty or not.It is ok to speculate (the law uses speculation as a way to form and connect motives),but not acceptable to the law to condemn before being guilty.Su****ion is different than guilt...it allows freedom to prove your innocence or guilt...

[MindBat]

do you have the link to where it states it was?
because as far as I know.. once you AGREE and SIGN to do something you HAVE to do it whether you like it or not.

There is a link here where Schaefer states that it was part of the original contract and that Arum and team should not have acted surprised that it was. Random blood testing was known by Arum and company at the start of negotiations.

The fact is Arum never refused random blood testing, but he wanted to change the meaning and significance of random to serve his and Manny's purposes.

He suggested the use of other outside testing agencies in lieu of the NSAC.

[ThePunchingBag]

What parts?

Holyfield didn't take any blood tests.

Tyson asked for random testing from the NSAC.

It's not just that he got things wrong, but that he failed to mention things or put them into context.

I do know that the slickest way to lie is to tell the right amount of truth - then to shut up.

[Carpe Diem]

Bruce is a smart guy.

[Sin City]

There is a link here where Schaefer states that it was part of the original contract and that Arum and team should not have acted surprised that it was. Random blood testing was known by Arum and company at the start of negotiations.

The fact is Arum never refused random blood testing, but he wanted to change the meaning and significance of random to serve his and Manny's purposes.

He suggested the use of other outside testing agencies in lieu of the NSAC.

there is a link where Arum states that they crossed the blood test claus out of the contract and sent it back to GBP.

The fact is that once you sign something that says you've agreed to it you have to do it whether you like it or not.
Manny never signed or agreed to anything.

[Xyei]

sorry.. I forget that not everyone has it at 40 posts per page hahaa
It's post number #119


might as well just repost it here:

His name came up during an Orlando raid:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...eld/index.html

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...idence_ag.html

All good man. i have my **** set on 40 but thought you might have had it on 10 so I couldn't find it. Neither link is working though.

[MindBat]

random blood tests were NOT in the original contract. That's something they did not agree to. If they would've then we wouldn't be having this argument right now and Pacquiao would've been forced to take them whether he liked it or not.

Here's you quote:

"A proposed March 13 superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather has fallen through over Olympic-style drug testing. Mayweather wanted the Filipino to accept random blood testing by USADA. Pacquiao agreed to three tests, including two before their bout."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-25-goldenboybloodtests_N.htm

Why would Manny agree to anything if it was not in the contract?