This Video will forever **** on *******s opinion about the roid allegations!

[baracuda]

Yet Mayweather was willing to be tested for that. So that means you should suspect Manny more since he declined.

he was willing coz he demanded it...duh!

[damned1974]

Sorry, I didn't see this when I responded to your other message. You see, this has been one of the pillars of the steroid argument. People say that no one can look that good while going up in weight, well when we find others that have, it demolishes that argument.

So far the speculation has been, at least in my observation based on misinformation and jealousy. Also, Manny does not have to prove his innocence, his record has been impeccable and he has passed every test of every governing body he has taken.

You are correct-he does NOT have to prove innocence,but most people would agree that it only magnifies his legacy that he has built up by accepting it and making Floyd look like a fool by passing it.There seems to be a resistance built around it,and the excuses are very volatile at best.Like I have said-it doesn't make him guilty,just su****ious to many people.
Now as far as passing the tests-we live in a modern age where solutions for dirty fighters overweight honesty. Drug tests can be masked and covered while the conducted tests themselves evolve at a slower rate. In short,it has become easier to cheat tests,come up clean and wipe the sweat off of your brow than it is to test dirty with a urine test.I believe random is the closest way to catch anyone attempting to exploit fairness.I wonder if hair strand tests are capable of detecting any substances....
When other fighters have openly admitted to falling through the cracks of NSAC,an independent agency could provide a civil compromise.
Again-to you and Manny,this request is off the wall-but you cannot deny that it serves to benefit all parties involved.Manny's $10,000,000 request seems to benefit one man only-yet there was an agreement reached.I would also be prone to take a simple blood test than paying a fine of $10,000,000 for being a fraction of a pound over the limit-that is excessive.It was after an excessive and selfish request from Pacquiao that Floyd wanted his own test,that he would take as well. Would it be possible that a fine of ten million was a means to detour Floyd from the fight,and when that didn't detour him,any request that was denied of his (keep in mind-he has the right to ask for a request-it is his contract as well,and he will bring Manny the largest payday he would recieve-likewise it's possible Floyd would as well) to make him feel uneasy about taking this fight.It is fair to say that when we make more money,we can assume more responsibilities.A random blood test with a 14 day window is not unreasonable or impossible to a clean man who FIGHTS his heart out,puts his life on the line in every fight just to show his legacy.

[el malo]

true. but so did shane mosley and tommy morrison. they were known steroid users.
This does not, of course, mean that Manny is using, it only means that people who are using steroids may not necessarily get caught.

in other words, passing every test in nevada dont mean ****!

[Stoned Roses]

in other words, passing every test in nevada dont mean ****!

cotto beat a known steroid user (mosley) that means.....

[cixthree]

My point is you Fudge Packers have more excuses than Manny. You know if it were Floyd with all these BS "excuses" you'd scream to strip him from the books, you ass.

Point is you drones 1 fear finding out your hero is juicing
So you down the testing and research bs reasons not to do it.

You come with this sych BS now? I thought it was ******stitions? Pride? Honor? Needles? Makes him weak?.. Oh oh, Floyd is scared so he's using this to duck Manny shyt. Dummy! We all know whO Floyd came back for, who the hell is gonna believe he is using a blood test to avoid Manny, except you drones.

Point is, you fear finding out. You'd Still Hug his sack even if you knew he was juicing you bastard. You'd still think he was this all mighty hero even as a cheat.

I'm no expert on roids (niether are you) but know fish when I smell it.
I know it's hard to admit, and Manny will avoid this test as long as he can. I'd bet he'll retire soon but this will haunt him. He expected the royal reach around but somebody screamed foul and they weren't prepared.

You hug his nuts all you want, but us non drones see right thru it. Your hero is tainted (user or not) but he failed to step up. It was there for him and he ducked it.
Period.

Stop making up shyt!

[VoodooChild]

You are correct-he does NOT have to prove innocence,but most people would agree that it only magnifies his legacy that he has built up by accepting it and making Floyd look like a fool by passing it.There seems to be a resistance built around it,and the excuses are very volatile at best.Like I have said-it doesn't make him guilty,just su****ious to many people.

I will concede that, sometimes when I read these articles I'm even yelling "Take the damn test!!"

Now as far as passing the tests-we live in a modern age where solutions for dirty fighters overweight honesty. Drug tests can be masked and covered while the conducted tests themselves evolve at a slower rate. In short,it has become easier to cheat tests,come up clean and wipe the sweat off of your brow than it is to test dirty with a urine test.I believe random is the closest way to catch anyone attempting to exploit fairness.I wonder if hair strand tests are capable of detecting any substances....
When other fighters have openly admitted to falling through the cracks of NSAC,an independent agency could provide a civil compromise.

I agree, but if improved random testing is going to be implemented I believe that it should be done with the guidance of the athletic commissions and not demanded on a fighter by another because they feel "weird" about him.

Again-to you and Manny,this request is off the wall-but you cannot deny that it serves to benefit all parties involved.Manny's $10,000,000 request seems to benefit one man only-yet there was an agreement reached.I would also be prone to take a simple blood test than paying a fine of $10,000,000 for being a fraction of a pound over the limit-that is excessive.It was after an excessive and selfish request from Pacquiao that Floyd wanted his own test,that he would take as well. Would it be possible that a fine of ten million was a means to detour Floyd from the fight,and when that didn't detour him,any request that was denied of his (keep in mind-he has the right to ask for a request-it is his contract as well,and he will bring Manny the largest payday he would recieve-likewise it's possible Floyd would as well) to make him feel uneasy about taking this fight.It is fair to say that when we make more money,we can assume more responsibilities.

It is excessive but Floyd has come in over the agreed upon weight limit before. I'm not sure if this was a red herring by Manny or not.

A random blood test with a 14 day window is not unreasonable or impossible to a clean man who FIGHTS his heart out,puts his life on the line in every fight just to show his legacy.

I agree from my standpoint it isn't a big deal but I'm not personally involved. Again, it should have been petitioned to the governing body, at this point Manny is fed up with this and saying "**** you, I'm not bending over for you or your drug dealing father".

[miron_lang]

**** Manny. **** Floyd.This sport would benefit from olympic style blood test, sooner or later someone is going to have to step up and do it, Mayweather tried.

hahahahahaha


Olympic style blood test caught Zero .. yes 0 athlete



State Commisions- caught Vargas, Chavez Jr, Toney, Sosa, Roy Jones, Mosley etc

[damned1974]

So then why single out Manny?

To be honest-whoever is demanded random blood testing is going to feel "singled out".It is probably better to make it a new standard within boxing.As the times catch up and cheaters find new ways to exploit the system,the system needs to evolve its regulations to suit the times...

[iHateThePacMan]

What is this the illumanti video. Everyone can read or tell facts but that doesnt change the fact that there are no proof behind pac steriod use.

The thing that bothers me the most is that Pac had never tested positive for his boxing career but people jump on the gun to accuse him. Even if pac team made a fool out him or not- 10 years clean free is enough to convince me that he is clean and that my opinion because you have to respect that.

"Innocent until proven guilty". he does give out facts which are pretty much it but there are no proof on pac using steroids just speculations. So the video is irrelevant unless you want the history of steroid users

some of the floyd fans or pac haters just used this to get into *******s or pacquiao fans in general- its becoming so childish that its becoming redicolous

[General Zod]

hahahahahaha

Olympic style blood test caught Zero .. yes 0 athlete

State Commisions- caught Vargas, Chavez Jr, Toney, Sosa, Roy Jones, Mosley etc

Dude, please don't tell me you are forming conclusions on those facts.