Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

[rommel357]

Thank you Al, he knows what he's talking about.

[Pacquiao'd]

and pac said he agreed to unlimited urine test which is everyday, LMAO you act like its impossible with arum and gbp footing the bill out of their million dollar pockets.. now did you think he meant 100 urine test a day?? now why would you even think that?

yah sure administer drug test and you know some things LMAO you guys come up with some funny *****

you are a running ***** just like floyd is when he ran from pac


dont wanna answer why pac would need an HGH test when urine is adequate

you can run from me ***** but you cant run from the truth:smileysex

PEDs arent easily detected in the urine dumb ass, thats why they do random BLOOD and urine. whats not seen in the urine can be seen in the blood.

so why do you think they are ok with urine but not blood.

how do you think shane didnt get caught fool?

[Pullcounter]

the real question is not about innocence, its about who's in control and who gets to make the rules.

does that mean if Flloyd beats shane and sells something ridiculous like 2.5 mil ppv's then floyd is in control and manny has to take the test. Or is Manny in control because he is the WBO champ?

it doesn't matter how much mosley/floyd does. at the end of the day, floyd isn't pac's boss.

also, just cause pac has the wbo belt doesn't make him floyd's boss.

but guess who is in charge of pac/floyd? the NSAC. so its pretty simple. if floyd wants pac to take the test, then he needs to get the commission to change their testing procedures. and if pac wants to fight anywhere else, the floyd gotta convince those commissions to change their testing procedures.

at the end of the day, floyd got 3 options to bring pac to the table.

1) drop his demands

2) influence the commissions to do USDA testing

3) give pac a bigger purse, a purse large enough that even pac wouldn't refuse the testing

any other options floyd takes and the fight isn't gonna happen. I gotta say, it seem like floyd would be more than happy not to fight pac

[Pacquiao'd]

it doesn't matter how much mosley/floyd does. at the end of the day, floyd isn't pac's boss.

also, just cause pac has the wbo belt doesn't make him floyd's boss.

but guess who is in charge of pac/floyd? the NSAC. so its pretty simple. if floyd wants pac to take the test, then he needs to get the commission to change their testing procedures. and if pac wants to fight anywhere else, the floyd gotta convince those commissions to change their testing procedures.

at the end of the day, floyd got 3 options to bring pac to the table.

1) drop his demands

2) influence the commissions to do USDA testing

3) give pac a bigger purse, a purse large enough that even pac wouldn't refuse the testing

any other options floyd takes and the fight isn't gonna happen. I gotta say, it seem like floyd would be more than happy not to fight pac

so you have to be someones boss to have the upper hand in nego.? you are dense...truly

[Pullcounter]

cops can arrest me, throw me in jail and put me up for execution if i come close to the description of the murder suspect, you idiot.

there are plenty innocent people in jail

how old are you idiot?

wow, and you think that's right that the cops can do that?

you have a warped sense of justice. explains why you're a moron.

[flour]

PEDs arent easily detected in the urine dumb ass, thats why they do random BLOOD and urine. whats not seen in the urine can be seen in the blood.

so why do you think they are ok with urine but not blood.

how do you think shane didnt get caught fool?

oh but urine CAN DETECT all PEDS except HGH the gasser and i already promise you the links. it wont be today though cus its time consuming and i might answer u back a couple of hours later


the genesis behind bloodtesting was back in 2000 when they didnt have a urine test to detect HGH, at the same time, HGH was fairly knew, some athletes have been known to use it and why wouldnt they.. it's human growth hormone.. HEY LOOKY LOOKY.. HUMAN GROWTH.. it must enhance your performance somehow since it has growth in it when in reality it doesnt....

this is where the, scientific test have been done to study its effects of this claim comes in and they have found the very opposite, it doesnt help u at all


so bloodtest was invented in 2000 as oppose to urine testing which has been around for 40 years- URINE TEST IS PROBABLY OLDER THAN YOU LOL it has wisdom on what is a drug and what isnt

besides that, blood testing was using as a screening device to find some kind of anomaly in a person's blood signature.. why? because blood test is around 40 bucks and urine test cost 400 dollars.. only when they find an "ANOMOLY" or something out of the ordinary will they then use the more expensive urine
test to test the said athlete on what EXACTLY IT IS that is afoot

now there's over 1000 olympic athletes at any given moment training all year round.. do u think a non-profit organization like the WORLD ANTI DRUG TESTING AGENCY OR THE U.S ANTI-DRUG AGENCY can afford to foot the 400 dollar bill for every athlete when its more frugal to use blood test and save some money and only then use the more expensive urine test to weed out the cheater?

on the shane thing, if u read what i said about no drug test being able to detect unknown drug you woulda known why its that way.. see someone from BALCO that conte guy snitched and provided the sample for the drug testing agency to develop a test...see, balco didnt just gave them a list of athletes who bought "the clear " from them, they also provided the clear... if none of that ever happen... marion would still be reigning olympic champion, shane wouldnt admist shii nor would bonds be implicated in the scandal
ITS EXACTLY WHY ALL OF THEM ON THE LIST DIDNT GET CAUGHT.. cus no test existed b4 hand and no urine nor blood nor hair sample could see if it was there even if it was staring right at them...they can test whos on the clear NOW via urine or blood by virtue of the snitcher

. thats how you develop drug test.. it always that way.... no amount of bloodtesting, be it random or not would change the fact it will not detect anything else that urine cant excep when it comes to HGH, which gasses you

LMAO why r u asking me all this anyways. didnt you claim YOURE THE PED- TESTER ?

man youre just a *****.. i gtg to work now dont lick floyd too much cus.. im sure u want him to beat manny right? i feel the same way only i want manny to beat him.. isnt that why u watch him? LMAO peace *****

[Pullcounter]

Pull, I don't have the energy nor the desire to argue with you on all this so I'm not even going to quote the rest of this. I said my piece.

And I believe I'm right. That Manny proves nothing by dodging blood tests. Right or wrong in anyones eyes. And he most certainly does not DISPROVE anything either. I cannot understand why Manny and Co. don't want to clear his name. And again, don't want to hear "he's never tested positive".

There are people that think Manny takes PEDs. Fact

Dodging drug tests and filing lawsuits does not help that public perception. Fact

Is as simple as that.

damn you just ignored everything I said.

I understand, you never were interested in intellectual discourse. you don't want to be challenged, you just want people to go along with whatever you're hashing blindly.

all I gotta say is, you interpret things according to your own bias, don't assume that other people interpret things in the same way you do.

[Alibata]

I never understood the "Manny never tested positive" argument.

Umm, isn't that why Floyd is challenging the drug testing protocol to begin with? He feels Navada's requirements are not up to par.

If Manny wanted to prove he wasn't a PED user, all he had to do was sign the fight. Simple as that.

You can't prove something by not proving it. Does Pac and company understand that? If Floyd is questioning the system, and questioning Pac's credibility, why would Pac file a law suit and not take the tests?

How does that prove anything? If anything, it makes him look more guilty.

Here's a comparison for you: You call me a pot head. I say "No I'm not, I've never tested positive". You say I think those tests you've been taking are crap, so let's use better testing. I say "No way, you're a liar and trying to discredit me. I'm suing you"

Does anyone believe that in this scenario I've proved my innocence? If you say yes, then you're probably beyond needing help.

The difference between you and me is that you care too much what other people think... I know the truth and that is all that matters. If I was boxer and you did not know and was bullying me because you was bigger , do I beat you up to prove I am the better man? Nah, just knowing I can kick you ass is more than comforting to me. If you wan't me to go out of my way to prove something to you, put on a pair of gloves and get in the ring. We got to compromise here. Manny was willing to take a blood test 24 days before the fight. Now if you sucker punch me in the face I will got to the proper authorities and try to use means to let you know you can't do that to me.

[Pacquiao'd]

wow, and you think that's right that the cops can do that?

you have a warped sense of justice. explains why you're a moron.

you didnt ask whether it was right or wrong...go reread your post.

i stated that it happens and happens alot. stay on track tard

[Pullcounter]

so you have to be someones boss to have the upper hand in nego.? you are dense...truly

no dumb ass!!!

but how can negotiations even start if you already put something on the table that the otherside refuses to do.

you can't force them to come to the table and you can't force them to bend to your demands.

if you want the otherside to comply, you gotta give them something in return, something that would bring them to the table and make them compliant.

you don't start out negotiations with an untenable position. that's how morons (i'm talking about you) negotiate.

dumb ass