Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

[jrosales13]

Floyd fans automatically hate everyone that talks positive about Pac; Bernstein, Sugar, Rafael, and what ever growing list of Pac believers is revealed. Though they love guys like Atlas, Paulie etc.

I am not a Rafael fan, I don't care if he likes Pac and hates Floyd. He writes a bunch of bull****... I don't really care for him...

I like Al Bernstein he knows his ****. Is really a shame that some Floyd fans want to put him on the same boat with Rafael...

And, I have the up most respect for Bert Sugar. I don't see how you can not... The man has great knowledge of the sport...

I have notice that though from some Floyd fans. That if they say one thing negative about Floyd or say something positive about Pac then they're biased idiots. Which is a moronic way of thinking.

And, I also like Teddy Atlas... The man doesn't care. He will say whatever he wants... And, I respect that. He don't bite his tongue...

Paulie is just a big mouth idiot. And, somewhat of an overrated fighter...

[Pacquiao'd]

yo, they made a vid of you yesterday. you should check it out.

i already posted in the thread 'tard. look on page two genius

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd fans automatically hate everyone that talks positive about Pac; Bernstein, Sugar, Rafael, and what ever growing list of Pac believers is revealed. Though they love guys like Atlas, Paulie etc.

I actually get annoyed when a guy like Dan Rafael posts a story on espn regarding why floyd didn't fight cotto or margarito then sstill says floyd is ducking. Dan knows why floyd filed the lawsuit against bob and why those fights didn't occur. He just won't point it out during his chats or blogs.

I get annoyed when I watched larry merchant almost slap the **** outta shane when he asked him when he was gonna fight floyd and shane said he had to get his tooth fixed then larry questions why floyd hasn't fought him yet without bringing this up

I get annoyed when journalists know the truth yet don't say it because they hate the way floyd carries and markets himself.

[Pullcounter]

I didn't realize. I thought the #1 spot was shane. I guess that is only dan rafael As i understand, #1 v #2 or #1 vs #3 is for the ring championship. Is that correct?

this is from their website:
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1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 51-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 23
Titles: WBO, The Ring
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2. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 167
Titles: WBA
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3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 31
if I remember cor

Championship vacancies can be filled by winning a box-off between The Ring's number-one and number-two contenders, or, in certain instances, a box-off between our number-one and number-three contenders.

[dans]

I never understood the "Manny never tested positive" argument.

Umm, isn't that why Floyd is challenging the drug testing protocol to begin with? He feels Navada's requirements are not up to par.

If Manny wanted to prove he wasn't a PED user, all he had to do was sign the fight. Simple as that.

You can't prove something by not proving it. Does Pac and company understand that? If Floyd is questioning the system, and questioning Pac's credibility, why would Pac file a law suit and not take the tests?

How does that prove anything? If anything, it makes him look more guilty.

Here's a comparison for you: You call me a pot head. I say "No I'm not, I've never tested positive". You say I think those tests you've been taking are crap, so let's use better testing. I say "No way, you're a liar and trying to discredit me. I'm suing you"

Does anyone believe that in this scenario I've proved my innocence? If you say yes, then you're probably beyond needing help.

[Pullcounter]

i already posted in the thread 'tard. look on page two genius

yo did you like it *******?

[Pacquiao'd]

Im sorry I am confused by what you just posted.

I am talking about Dan Rafael(ESPN) and Al Bernstein(Showtime). But, you're a showing me a video about Bert Sugar(Historian)... Why? You do realize I am talking about two other people right? You do know who Dan Rafael and Al Bernstein are right? They're not Bert Sugar the guy you're showing me.

But, maybe I am misunderstanding you on what you trying to say. Hopefully you can explain it to me...

And, for the record Bert Sugar has forgotten more about boxing then you and I could ever learn put together in our lifetime...

True Story

haha, self face palm. i read bernstein and dont know why i started thinking Bert Sugar or how i confused the two haha

[The Big Dunn]

this is from their website:
#
1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City)
Record: 51-3-2 (38 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 23
Titles: WBO, The Ring
#
2. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 167
Titles: WBA
#
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 40-0-0 (25 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 31
if I remember cor

Championship vacancies can be filled by winning a box-off between The Ring's number-one and number-two contenders, or, in certain instances, a box-off between our number-one and number-three contenders.

I just checked this myself. Do you know when manny passed shane? I shouldn't be surprised because shane hasn't fought in 18 months and manny has beaten cotto (at 145) and clottey.

Thanks! I still think if floyd didn't "retire" manny would'nt have the #1 spot.

[Pacquiao'd]

I never understood the "Manny never tested positive" argument.

Umm, isn't that why Floyd is challenging the drug testing protocol to begin with? He feels Navada's requirements are not up to par.

If Manny wanted to prove he wasn't a PED user, all he had to do was sign the fight. Simple as that.

You can't prove something by not proving it. Does Pac and company understand that? If Floyd is questioning the system, and questioning Pac's credibility, why would Pac file a law suit and not take the tests?

How does that prove anything? If anything, it makes him look more guilty.

Here's a comparison for you: You call me a pot head. I say "No I'm not, I've never tested positive". You say I think those tests you've been taking are crap, so let's use better testing. I say "No way, you're a liar and trying to discredit me. I'm suing you"

Does anyone believe that in this scenario I've proved my innocence? If you say yes, then you're probably beyond needing help.

exactly, benefit of the doubt my ass

[The Big Dunn]

I never understood the "Manny never tested positive" argument.

Umm, isn't that why Floyd is challenging the drug testing protocol to begin with? He feels Navada's requirements are not up to par.

If Manny wanted to prove he wasn't a PED user, all he had to do was sign the fight. Simple as that.

You can't prove something by not proving it. Does Pac and company understand that? If Floyd is questioning the system, and questioning Pac's credibility, why would Pac file a law suit and not take the tests?

How does that prove anything? If anything, it makes him look more guilty.

Here's a comparison for you: You call me a pot head. I say "No I'm not, I've never tested positive". You say I think those tests you've been taking are crap, so let's use better testing. I say "No way, you're a liar and trying to discredit me. I'm suing you"

Does anyone believe that in this scenario I've proved my innocence? If you say yes, then you're probably beyond needing help.

I don't disagree with your points. I'm just a person that feels a person is innocent until proven guilty.

For example, I think every fight margarito had since he lost to daniel santos he loaded his gloves. I think shane may have been dirty long before ODH. And I was a big Shane fan. ever since the BALCO **** not so much. (not that I gave back all the money I won when he beat ODH)