Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #201
    Originally posted by flour

    unlimited testing is better than random test- random means its not an everyday thing, it's a random day thing otherwise you'd just say its an everyday unlimited test

    again r u thinking b4 ur writing?


    the issue is not about randomization, it's about not cheating at all, thats the WHOLE IDEA BEHIND drug testing- for an athlete not to enhance himself artifically , think b4 u write the diffrence between random and unlimited and quit dragging arum into it.. lol

    dont avoid reason and logic, enlighten yourself and ask why pac would need a BLOOD TEST.. or an HGH test.. that's all it is really when urine is there..

    why would u need to test for HGH when pac is a stamina freak and HGH makes u gas??

    dont blame *******s for saying MAY IS A ***** when you lot should know urinalysis is an acceptable drug test and may wont let it go.. he must be scared.. no?? otherwise just go with the NSAC DRUG TESTING THAT PAC HAS PASSED over 10 times and fight manny..
    You clearly have no idea what PED testing entails. No PED test occdurs everyday. Blood testing is more accurate than urine testing.

    I actually administer drug test on a daily basis for my job so I do know some things. I guess I need to stop discussing this with you.

    Peace!

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    • titan m
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      #202
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      drop the demands and you'd have a fight


      isn't that the most important thing?
      thats true but at the same time couldnt you say take the tests and make the fight? i know pacquiao never tested dirty but if he had taken the tests, even though he didnt feel he should have to, the steroid thing would be a dead issue. maybe mayweather was out of line by asking for the tests but i dont really think anybody really thought pacquiao was on steroids until he refused them. hes now suing mayweather over it but even if he wins in court there will always be people who say hes using steroids and he can blame mayweather all he wants but he allowed it to happen. im sure none of his fans will question his legacy but because he refused blood tests there will always be people who do. people were saying that hes so good he has to be on something, it should have been a pleasure to prove them wrong.

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        #203
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Respect! I know a lot of guys who think floyd is legit with his concerns. Guys I respect. I have my concerns but if he hasn't tested positive he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

        But I want random PED testing in boxing!
        rumors were going around about shane being on something, he never tested positive. did he deserve the benefit of the doubt?

        well he got it and what later happened?

        floyd confirmed the rumors were true by his own admission.

        if you are clean, pissed or not, someone request testing for both fighters...take the test.

        as said, if a chic tell me she wants me to get checked for STD's before i run in her raw, im going to take the test and ask she do it as wel;

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          #204
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          pac's already p4p #1. also ring mag has pac as the #1 WW, so according to their rules, mosley/floyd isn't for the WW championship. and the Ring is owned by GBP
          I didn't realize. I thought the #1 spot was shane. I guess that is only dan rafael As i understand, #1 v #2 or #1 vs #3 is for the ring championship. Is that correct?

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            #205
            Originally posted by yesir
            that doesnt mean he should or have to fight someone who could be juicing getting an unfair advantage.

            so testing is to prove both fighters are clean.

            your point is moot.

            unless you want to take the stance, like all the other *******s, if pac is easy work, floyd should fight pac even if pac is juicing.


            hope you arent saying that
            What I am saying is why do Floyd believe a fighter who is "easy money, easy work" and one dimensional is on PED's?

            Unless he doesn't really believe that the one fighter is "easy money, easy work" and not so one dimensional. Could that be it?

            Could it be that he believes there is no way Pac could be this great without using PED's?

            I hope you understand what I am asking you...

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              #206
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Im sorry I am confused by what you just posted.

              I am talking about Dan Rafael(ESPN) and Al Bernstein(Showtime). But, you're a showing me a video about Bert Sugar(Historian)... Why? You do realize I am talking about two other people right? You do know who Dan Rafael and Al Bernstein are right? They're not Bert Sugar the guy you're showing me.

              But, maybe I am misunderstanding you on what you trying to say. Hopefully you can explain it to me...

              And, for the record Bert Sugar has forgotten more about boxing then you and I could ever learn put together in our lifetime...

              True Story
              Floyd fans automatically hate everyone that talks positive about Pac; Bernstein, Sugar, Rafael, and what ever growing list of Pac believers is revealed. Though they love guys like Atlas, Paulie etc.

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                #207
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                What are you talking about?

                Who are you talking about?
                pac...just corrected it

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by yesir
                  rumors were going around about shane being on something, he never tested positive. did he deserve the benefit of the doubt?

                  well he got it and what later happened?

                  floyd confirmed the rumors were true by his own admission.

                  if you are clean, pissed or not, someone request testing for both fighters...take the test.

                  as said, if a chic tell me she wants me to get checked for STD's before i run in her raw, im going to take the test and ask she do it as wel;
                  I know.

                  But i'm a big believer in innocent until proven guilty. Thats why I want random PED testing implemented in boxing across the board.

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by yesir
                    rumors were going around about shane being on something, he never tested positive. did he deserve the benefit of the doubt?

                    well he got it and what later happened?

                    floyd confirmed the rumors were true by his own admission.

                    if you are clean, pissed or not, someone request testing for both fighters...take the test.

                    as said, if a chic tell me she wants me to get checked for STD's before i run in her raw, im going to take the test and ask she do it as wel;
                    if you get plenty of *****, you won't go above and beyond just to get one *****.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      My reasoning is I think Bob is the reason for all this BS. I think he is a piece of ****. I think he will risk anyone of his fighters lives (ie Margarito cotto, making cotto come down to 146 to make his biggest payday vs pac) to get more money.

                      And I think manny deserves the benefit of the doubt because he never tested positive. Innocent until proven guilty. Thats just how I roll.
                      dude, manny is his own man. if he wanted the fight bad enough, he would have told bob that hes the one fighting. that hes wants the fight and will accpet whatever.

                      only so much blame can be put on bob. you saw what floyd did when bob tried to dictate his life and career.

                      at some pooint you have to look at is manny, not bob. manny has the final say

                      and again, shane got thebenefit of the doubt and was a lying cheating scumbag. hell, the dude is still lying to this day not wanting to take full ownership of HIS OWN actions

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