Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

[The Big Dunn]

bottom line is if something is to be done to clean the sports of boxing every fighter should be covered. and there are boxing commissions to take care of that. it is not a fighter's obligation to initiate something that is the commission's responsibility. if one fighter is not satisfied or doesn't agree with the commission rules he can choose not to fight if he thinks his life/health is at risk...as simple as that.

Your posts suggest you are a smart observer. Do you think any comission would institute testing like this. If someone fails the test the fight is likely cancelled. EVERYONE LOSES MONEY!

[V.WEBB]

thats not a good point ,alot of fighters go that route when moving up in weight to level the playing field between themselves and the fighter theyre fighting a class above (e.g corralles-casamayor).. mayweather did it in his last fight and cheated marquez out of their catchweight, he made his own rule about where the fight should be held, gave NSAC to verify it and bind him to it and broke it when he went 4 pounds over the weight... did u forget that? why dont u ask mayweather why he did that to marquez and force hatton to fight a class above the weight he campaigns... besides the OSDT

you *****s will just say about anything lmao

Hold up, Mayweather went over the commission head and imposed his OWN weight penalty?

why dont u ask mayweather why he did that to marquez and force hatton to fight a class above the weight he campaigns...

LOL, I like how everyone cries about Ricky going up 7 pounds to fight Floyd. But no one cried when Floyd had to go up in weight to fight Oscar at a weight class he had never fought at.

[Gutz]

Nice..."answering" a question with a question.

Why you always get so butt hurt...

I Think the 10mil penalty is ******ed... 1mil would have been fine just like his last fights with Cotto and Oscar..

Now how do you feel about the OST which was uncalled for cause of baseless accusations..

and how do you feel about Floyd coming in over weight when he already made JMM move up 2 weight classes..

[Gutz]

Hold up, Mayweather went over the commission head and imposed his OWN weight penalty?



LOL, I like how everyone cries about Ricky going up 7 pounds to fight Floyd. But no one cried when Floyd had to go up in weight to fight Oscar at a weight class he had never fought at.

LOL of course no one going to cry about Floyd moving up.. He won... Duh....

[V.WEBB]

its called answering a ***** bias/lie with the obvious truthful sarcastic question

His answer had squat to do with the question that I asked you. You seem to be all for the commission when Manny abides by it. But when someone (Floyd in this case) goes ABOVE the commission LIKE MANNY has done in the past, its a problem and "Manny will only do what the commission says".... SMH.

[V.WEBB]

LOL of course no one going to cry about Floyd moving up.. He won... Duh....

So if you move up in weight and lose, it was AUTOMATICALLY the weight?

Why you always get so butt hurt...

I Think the 10mil penalty is ******ed... 1mil would have been fine just like his last fights with Cotto and Oscar..

Now how do you feel about the OST which was uncalled for cause of baseless accusations..

and how do you feel about Floyd coming in over weight when he already made JMM move up 2 weight classes..

Butthurt, come on dude. This is a cool lil convo. I'm cool, calm and collected.

1) I had no problem with the extra testing, ESPECIALLY since I don't think Manny is on something illegal. He has passed every test that he has taken, WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, I believed that he would pass even more stringent testing. I haven't really been the one to criticize Manny, but the excuses, lies and contradictions were crazy.

2) Floyd should have weighed in at 144. Simple. He didn't. He paid the penalty.

[Gutz]

So if you move up in weight and lose, it was AUTOMATICALLY the weight?

You should know by now how that works... Cause if you win.. no one going to say **** about moving up in weight..

Just like no one said anything about Pac moving up to fight Daiz, Oscar, Hatton, and Cotto..

[flour]

I've never heard of a fighter requesting $10 mil per lb if a fighter comes in overweight. It's a good point because floyd....

--sits on 300 million dollars of which may claims himself and hes known to come in over the weight limit and cheat the scales...

most of the fighters who have already been penalize suffer 10-70k penalty and they have what? 100k in the bank? im being generaous, i dont know how much they earn but i sure do know theyre not making millions and that in itself serve as a deterance on why they shouldnt cheat.. pac's demand wasnt outrageous it was in fact sensible because it would serve as a deterrent on may not cheating since anything below 1 million is peanuts to may... do u like may cheating ? i think u do

Against JMM the original unsigned contracted weight was 144lbs. Floyd didn't sign the contract. Came in the day of the fight at 146. They rewrote the contract, offering JMM $300,000 per lb floyd was overweight. JMM got $600K.

i know you making this up especially the unsigned part.. there's no weigh-in and promoting and everything fight related unless there's a sign contract LMAO

The reason this was done is because in vegas if a fighter comes in over weight the commission have the option to cancel the fight. With floyd needing the money for the IRS and JMM about to make his biggest payday ever they didn't want to cancel.

so floyd needed money for the IRS and somehow he put himself in the position where he lost 600k... 600k of what he needs for the IRS besides the revenue for the fight itself of course.. lol... dude do u think b4 u type or u just like to put down words? lmao

The floyd manny fight was contracted at 147. To mu knowledge floyd has never fought over that weight except when he weighed 148 for ODH.

hes fought there a couple of time(zab and baldo comes to mind)s and fought ODLH at 154 when he weighed in at 150.. and fought odlh at 147 on fightnight or so he claims
dont be a *****.... a ***** in the making

[brick wall]

Your posts suggest you are a smart observer. Do you think any comission would institute testing like this. If someone fails the test the fight is likely cancelled. EVERYONE LOSES MONEY!

i really have no idea if the commissions are interested to implement this random blood testing...i'm not even sure if their current procedures are really not effective. and i don't think they will cancel fights if someone fails the test because usually the test results comes out days after the fight unless the fighter was caught during the training and not immediately before or after the fight.

[PAKYO]

Why should he have done that? Manny suggested the 24 days cut off, that was not in Mayweather's proposal that Manny agreed to. Add to the FACT that Manny said that he would only do blood test before the tour, one during training and after the fight(I believe). Manny tried to construct WHEN he would take a random test, why do ya'll keep overlooking that?



Everyone in their mind knows that he is not trying to clean up the sport. He wants his fight to be "cleaned up". What's wrong with that?

Now i'm getting confused...

First off, *****s keeps saying pac is suspect for not giving blood, just a teaspoon of blood and now you say this...

I'm not buying that. How did he get a tube of blood taken before fighting Clottey ,then the VERY next day he was training like his normal self and going to WORK on sparring partners, if giving blood weakens him? Come on man.

If pac is really unto something here which makes you people believe the crackhead, then why Pac let his blood get tested on other fights?

*****logic is really damn confusing...