Al Bernstein: "Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight."

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  • Danny Gunz
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    #151
    Fuck floyd and pac for blowing this fight. You can point fingers all day but in the end it is both their fault

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    • brick wall
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      #152
      the thing is this olympic style random blood testing was not even done in the recent winter olympics in vancouver. probably because of lack of time to subject every athlete to such test. it would have been easy if they just select a few athletes (the popular ones maybe) to undergo such test to create an impression. but that procedure is not possible because it will certainly create chaos, divisiveness and objection from the athletes involve. rules in the first place are meant to be inclusive not selective.

      so my question is...if ost in a selective manner is not possible in olympic games, what made you think that it is applicable to pro boxing that is not even covered by IOC authorities?

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        #153
        Originally posted by brick wall
        the thing is this olympic style random blood testing was not even done in the recent winter olympics in vancouver. probably because of lack of time to subject every athlete to such test. it would have been easy if they just select a few athletes (the popular ones maybe) to undergo such test to create an impression. but that procedure is not possible because it will certainly create chaos, divisiveness and objection from the athletes involve. rules in the first place are meant to be inclusive not selective.

        so my question is...if ost in a selective manner is not possible in olympic games, what made you think that it is applicable to pro boxing that is not even covered by IOC authorities?
        Good question! While it wasn't done in the winter games it was done in the summer games. Even the NBA players had to go through it. I don't know why it wasn't done in the winter games.

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        • Gutz
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          #154
          Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
          How do you feel about Manny GOING OVER THE COMMISSION'S head and imposing his OWN weight penalty against his opponents?


          How do you feel about Floyd going over weight vs JMM...

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          • Gutz
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            #155
            Originally posted by Danny Gunz
            Fuck floyd and pac for blowing this fight. You can point fingers all day but in the end it is both their fault


            ^^^ truth right here..


            You can also add Floyd Sr and Bob Arum to list of dumb ****s who ****ed up this fight..

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            • flour
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              #156
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              How do you feel about Manny GOING OVER THE COMMISSION'S head and imposing his OWN weight penalty against his opponents?

              Good point!!!!
              thats not a good point ,alot of fighters go that route when moving up in weight to level the playing field between themselves and the fighter theyre fighting a class above (e.g corralles-casamayor).. mayweather did it in his last fight and cheated marquez out of their catchweight, he made his own rule about what weight the fight should be held at, gave NSAC to verify the contract and bind him to it and broke it when he went 4 pounds over the weight... did u forget that? why dont u ask mayweather why he did that to marquez and force hatton to fight a class above the weight he campaigns... besides the OSDT

              you *****s will just say about anything lmao
              Last edited by flour; 04-22-2010, 01:31 PM.

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              • brick wall
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                #157
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                Good question! While it wasn't done in the winter games it was done in the summer games. Even the NBA players had to go through it. I don't know why it wasn't done in the winter games.
                bottom line is if something is to be done to clean the sports of boxing every fighter should be covered. and there are boxing commissions to take care of that. it is not a fighter's obligation to initiate something that is the commission's responsibility. if one fighter is not satisfied or doesn't agree with the commission rules he can choose not to fight if he thinks his life/health is at risk...as simple as that.

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Gutz
                  How do you feel about Floyd going over weight vs JMM...
                  Nice..."answering" a question with a question.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by flour
                    thats not a good point ,alot of fighters go that route when moving up in weight to level the playing field between themselves and the fighter theyre fighting a class above (e.g corralles-casamayor).. mayweather did it in his last fight and cheated marquez out of their catchweight, he made his own rule about where the fight should be held, gave NSAC to verify it and bind him to it and broke it when he went 4 pounds over the weight... did u forget that? why dont u ask mayweather why he did that to marquez and force hatton to fight a class above the weight he campaigns... besides the OSDT

                    you *****s will just say about anything lmao
                    I've never heard of a fighter requesting $10 mil per lb if a fighter comes in overweight. It's a good point because floyd ACCEPTED manny's outrageous demands yet manny can't accept floyds outrageous demands.

                    Against JMM the original unsigned contracted weight was 144lbs. Floyd didn't sign the contract. Came in the day of the fight at 146. They rewrote the contract, offering JMM $300,000 per lb floyd was overweight. JMM got $600K.

                    The reason this was done is because in vegas if a fighter comes in over weight the commission have the option to cancel the fight. With floyd needing the money for the IRS and JMM about to make his biggest payday ever they didn't want to cancel.

                    The floyd manny fight was contracted at 147. To mu knowledge floyd has never fought over that weight except when he weighed 148 for ODH.

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                    • flour
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                      Nice..."answering" a question with a question.
                      its called answering a ***** bias/lie with the obvious truthful sarcastic question

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