The Myth of the 140 version of Hatton post-Floyd

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  • hammerhiem
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    #41
    Originally posted by Xcusemymood
    Exactly, they are really reaching.
    You missunderstand, Hatton get called a bum because he is british not because of any ring performance.

    Cotto just got his ass whuped and stopped at a weight division higher than Hatton and I don't see anyone saying he's a bum.

    Same with Calzaghe, Hamed, Eubank, Benn and others, If any of those fighters where born in mexico they wouldn't catch 1% of teh **** that get thrown at them.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Xcusemymood
      Maybe he wasnt as effective at 147 as 140 but he still beat Collazo who is a solid fighter and had a belt, and was semi competative with Mayweather. Oscar looked like **** against Sturm but that didnt stop him from fighting Hopkins, who coincedently, became p4p #1 after that. And while no one claims Oscar was Hopkins best win he still gets credit for it. Doesnt mean Oscar didnt belong there, he was still competitive. No one said Oscar was **** or a bum at 160, although everyone knows that was not his ideal weight.

      Regardless of the context, Mr. Funnyman, How would he be better fighting somewhere else when he can make 20+ million fighting at WW and become p4p #1 with a win over Mayweather?
      Hatton is a good name on Mayweathers resume. It may not have been the cleanest/best win but it's still something you could list under his accomplishments. But Manny's victory is more impressive.

      Well we're talking from the point of view of a fan, not a manager or the fighter himself. So theoretically we want all the advantages to go to "our" fighter. And fighting at 140 is where Ricky belongs.

      And Oscar was total **** at 160 lol. Compared to his 147 self. He was slower, less powerful and probably not as motivated.

      It's funny how a couple losses spurned Hopkins to go out and take some big risks, having the best run of his career. Maybe that's what Mayweather needs?

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      • them_apples
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        #43
        Originally posted by Travdog
        Floyd knocked out an undefeated Ricky Hatton at 147 but I have been seeing a lot of people discrediting this win by saying Manny's win was more impressive because that was at Ricky's more natural weight at 140. Let's not forget the shenanigans that Ricky pulled against Lazcano after his loss to "Money May!" Let me refresh your memories. Check from the 5:10 mark.



        Hatton was a different fighter after he got knocked out by Floyd period and Manny finished him. But let's stop this nonsense about the dominant 140 pounder Ricky was at the time of the Pacman fight.
        he went back to 140 and was straight back to business. Wooping Malignaggi, who was, and still is..one of the better 140 lbders.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Andrew Cuff V2
          He won't let it go, he's been ****ing on about that fight for ages now lol. Hatton was at a disadvantage at 147, yes, but no-one honestly believes he had the skills to beat Mayweather at 140 anyway.
          Hatton has beaten supposedly more skilful fighters at 140 before. At 147 Floyd was able to handle Ricky's strength and took Hatton's punches far better than any 140lb fighter woruld even in the rounds he was outworked.

          Originally posted by Xcusemymood
          Maybe he was better at 140 but that doesnt mean he isnt effective or "has no business" at 147 because im pretty sure he made upwards of 20million for the Mayweather fight, which most would consider big business.

          He won a championship at the weight.

          Just answer the question.
          yeah I had him in the top 10 pfp, the money thing is annoying because I know he'd fight at 147 again for money even though he wouldn't be effective there against an elite fighter.

          Originally posted by Xcusemymood
          Weebler, you are losing all of my respect by ducking my questions and out of the thread.

          Its ok though, we know you are blinded by objectivity by your love of Hatton. But you are still wrong.
          Didn't duck out, went offline, real life and ****

          Originally posted by Xcusemymood
          Maybe he wasnt as effective at 147 as 140 but he still beat Collazo who is a solid fighter and had a belt, and was semi competative with Mayweather.
          I'm not saying Mayweather's win was total crap (I did say it was b/s but it's really the hype about it that was b/s), he beat a good fighter who was fighting above his natural weight but Pacquiao's win was better because he fought him at his most effective fighting weight.

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            #45
            hatton was at his best around the time of the tsyzu fight
            he wasnt the same after the mayweather fight,in fact he was finished

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              #46
              Originally posted by british_fan
              hatton was at his best around the time of the tsyzu fight
              he wasnt the same after the mayweather fight,in fact he was finished
              yet he cracked Malignaggi, the no.1 JWW contender in R.2 after Mayweather rendering him useless for the rest of the fight.

              Where in britain are you from?

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                #47
                Originally posted by The Weebler II
                yet he cracked Malignaggi, the no.1 JWW contender in R.2 after Mayweather rendering him useless for the rest of the fight.

                Where in britain are you from?
                you can keep sticking up for hatton all you want,but he clearly wasnt the same post-mayweather as he was pre-mayweather

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by british_fan
                  you can keep sticking up for hatton all you want,but he clearly wasnt the same post-mayweather as he was pre-mayweather
                  On what basis? and you didn't answer my question.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    On what basis? and you didn't answer my question.
                    i dont need too answer your question,is have nothing to do with what we are talking about
                    on the basis that he looked terrible against light-punching lazcano and was hurt a couple of times.he beat up malignaggi because the guy cant punch,the fight was just a smokescreen to set up another mega-fight for hatton

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                    • Sweet Jesus
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GrandMaster
                      Hatton beat Paulie M, who was a good 140 fighter.
                      Paulie himself says he was slipping under Buddy McGirt. Since Paulie got a new trainer, he's looked like a reborn fighter...decisioned Diaz twice, probably his best career win. Hatton got the worst version of Paulie.

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