The Myth of the 140 version of Hatton post-Floyd

[Weebler I]

Ive never heard of someone being a champion of a weightclass they had no business in.

He's a good fighter, good fighters can step up and win but he doesn't belong at 147. He's a small enough guy as it is and his style isn't as effective at 147, he beat Collazo but it was much more of a struggle than it should've been and it was clear he was more effective at 140.

Let me ask you this. Did you ever have Hatton ranked in your top 10 p4p list?

Why do you ask?

[Pugilistic™]

That's the whole point though, his biggest strength is almost completely negated at 147, he doesn't belong there and isn't the same opponent/challenge, his power, strength and effectiveness of his style just don't carry up. Pacquiao, clean or not, took him on at the weight where he is effective.

I still don't feel thats why he couldn't compete with Floyd.

Floyd was a far better inside fighter than Hatton thought he was. Hatton was able to get inside but even there he was ineffective.

Obviously the strength/size thing played a part though.

[Xcusemymood]

He's a good fighter, good fighters can step up and win but he doesn't belong at 147. He's a small enough guy as it is and his style isn't as effective at 147, he beat Collazo but it was much more of a struggle than it should've been and it was clear he was more effective at 140.



Why do you ask?

Maybe he was better at 140 but that doesnt mean he isnt effective or "has no business" at 147 because im pretty sure he made upwards of 20million for the Mayweather fight, which most would consider big business.

He won a championship at the weight.

Just answer the question.

Or how about this one? Do you think Bernard Hopkins had any business fighting Antonio Tarver @ 175?

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

That's the whole point though, his biggest strength is almost completely negated at 147, he doesn't belong there and isn't the same opponent/challenge, his power, strength and effectiveness of his style just don't carry up. Pacquiao, clean or not, took him on at the weight where he is effective.

he boxed instead of wrestled than maybe he would have had a decent shot.
and when does cutting more weight = being better for a fighter?

[Reloaded]

Take one minute to reflect the weights , Hatton fought Castillo and weighed 153 on the night of the fight , Hatton fought Floyd and weighed 153 on the night , Hatton fought Manny and weighed 151 , Hatton fought Collazo and weighed 158 and looked chubby , Hattons trainer said Floyd is so small and not a WW thats why we dont mind fighting him at 147 which made no difference at all to the fight weight from Hattons JW fights .

All this bull**** of Floyd forcing Hatton up is just that bull**** , they fought for the WW tin but it was fought at JnrWW in real weight .

The other issue is Hattons mindset with Floyd and his physical condition , Hatton was at his very best mentally being undefeated and physically the srongest he had ever been when Floyd beat him , Mannys win was more spectacular no doubt about that but it was definitely a lesser version of Hatton .

[Xcusemymood]

Weebler, you are losing all of my respect by ducking my questions and out of the thread.

Its ok though, we know you are blinded by objectivity by your love of Hatton. But you are still wrong.

[Konstantin]

Maybe he was better at 140 but that doesnt mean he isnt effective or "has no business" at 147 because im pretty sure he made upwards of 20million for the Mayweather fight, which most would consider big business.

He won a championship at the weight.

Just answer the question.

Or how about this one? Do you think Bernard Hopkins had any business fighting Antonio Tarver @ 175?

He wasn't effective at 147, in either of his fights. I think that pretty much sums up he doesn't belong at 147. Collazo is B class fighter at welterweight and Ricky practically lost to him. At 140 Ricky Hatton is winning against B class fighters quite easily.

I'm not sure how long you've been studying English, but I'll let you in on a little secret, the same words can mean different things. When people say he has no business being at 147 they mean he would be better off fighting elsewhere, not the financial aspect of the game.

[Xcusemymood]

He wasn't effective at 147, in either of his fights. I think that pretty much sums up he doesn't belong at 147. Collazo is B class fighter at welterweight and Ricky practically lost to him. At 140 Ricky Hatton is winning against B class fighters quite easily.

I'm not sure how long you've been studying English, but I'll let you in on a little secret, the same words can mean different things. When people say he has no business being at 147 they mean he would be better off fighting elsewhere, not the financial aspect of the game.

Maybe he wasnt as effective at 147 as 140 but he still beat Collazo who is a solid fighter and had a belt, and was semi competative with Mayweather. Oscar looked like **** against Sturm but that didnt stop him from fighting Hopkins, who coincedently, became p4p #1 after that. And while no one claims Oscar was Hopkins best win he still gets credit for it. Doesnt mean Oscar didnt belong there, he was still competitive. No one said Oscar was **** or a bum at 160, although everyone knows that was not his ideal weight.

Regardless of the context, Mr. Funnyman, How would he be better fighting somewhere else when he can make 20+ million fighting at WW and become p4p #1 with a win over Mayweather?

[hammerhiem]

No one said Oscar was **** or a bum at 160, although everyone knows that was not his ideal weight.

Oscar isn't British.

[Xcusemymood]

Oscar isn't British.

Exactly, they are really reaching.