Steroid Testing-Straigh To The Point

[fcastro1]

Sorry bud. Using this logic, any fighter should be allowed to avoid any kind of testing they feel "weakens" them mentally. I guess you think that's ok.

the only time he lost in 10 years is when he was forced to take the tests. pacs logic is not baseless, and he is not making it up because it happened.

floyds demands are baseless.

[IMDAZED]

the only time he lost in 10 years is when he was forced to take the tests. pacs logic is not baseless, and he is not making it up because it happened.

floyds demands are baseless.

You never answered the question. So should we excuse every fighter from tests who claims they are weakened by them?

[Pullcounter]

That doesn't matter. If this test was implemented for all (highly doubtful), should we excuse the fighters who claim they are affected "mentally" by it?

the nocebo effect is real.

if the test is approved by the NSAC then pac would not be exempt. too bad its not.

this guy's a prizefighter, and he's been around a while....

at the same time, he claims to be so spiritual, and so "connected to GOD."

excuse me, if i call bull****, when he claims he's superstitious, and will be mentally affected if he gives a teaspoon of blood a few days before the fight. if you're strong mentally and spiritually, as manny claims, then the blood thing shouldn't matter....he can't have it both ways.

it may be a good thing if the fight doesn't happen for him, because from what i can tell, manny may have lost the fight already, in his own mind. if h agrees to testing, he'll definitely lose, and that'll give the *******s the excuses they need....

he wasn't 100%, even though a teaspoon of blood is replaced naturally in the body in less than an hour, let alone 3 days.

**** the fight, like mayweather said, he'll never get full credit anyways....

read this article then get back to me

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A2709-2002Apr29

the nocebo effect is real.

[Doctor_Tenma]

the only time he lost in 10 years is when he was forced to take the tests. pacs logic is not baseless, and he is not making it up because it happened.

floyds demands are baseless.

More due to the fact that he was already on the 130 mark, didn't eat after getting his blood drawn. SFW was a division Pacquiao had to make, where as he really doesn't have to make 147 at all. Major difference, I shouldn't have had to point this out to you.

[fcastro1]

manny is ranked #1 in the world...not a fair comparison.

tyson's opponents lost mentally, b/c they saw tyson, and just couldn't imagine having what it takes to beat him....that's plausible.

donating a teaspoon of blood days before the fight, doesn't ring true as an excuse for losing, especially for somebody as mentally and spiritually strong as manny claims to be.....am i the only person who senses hypocracy?

but what if it has an affect in any way. would you be happy that floyd fought a less than 100% pac? i wouldn't want pac to beat a lesser version of floyd.

[IMDAZED]

the nocebo effect is real.

if the test is approved by the NSAC then pac would not be exempt. too bad its not.

A lot of things are real.

Again, should we excuse all fighters who claim they can't take a test because it affects them mentally?

[jrosales13]

this guy's a prizefighter, and he's been around a while....

at the same time, he claims to be so spiritual, and so "connected to GOD."

excuse me, if i call bull****, when he claims he's superstitious, and will be mentally affected if he gives a teaspoon of blood a few days before the fight. if you're strong mentally and spiritually, as manny claims, then the blood thing shouldn't matter....he can't have it both ways.

it may be a good thing if the fight doesn't happen for him, because from what i can tell, manny may have lost the fight already, in his own mind. if h agrees to testing, he'll definitely lose, and that'll give the *******s the excuses they need....

he wasn't 100%, even though a teaspoon of blood is replaced naturally in the body in less than an hour, let alone 3 days.

**** the fight, like mayweather said, he'll never get full credit anyways....

Athletes in general are superstitious. Even if the have this great belief in god are still superstitious. A baseball player before he goes up to bat that he did before... If a running back runs for a 100yards he won't change his socks for the next game. And, this are the same athletes gives thanks to god and what have you. And, if you are an elite level athlete, you have your routine that you do and you break that routine.

We are not the person. I mean we are talking from the outside looking in because is not us. We don't know what he really thinks or feels. Back in 2005 he said he lost a fight to Morales because he feels the blood testing he did days before the fight weakened him.

Did he come up with that in 2005 knowing that in 2010 Mayweather was going up to random blood testing?

Is easy to say that is bull**** because we are not in his shoes. But, if the man mentally feels that way. Then you have to see where he is coming from. I understand what you guys are saying and I agree. But, at the same time I am not Pac and I don't know how he feels, how he thinks, how he reacts. But, I do know that if a fighter goes into the ring feeling mentally weaken that he has no chance of winning. So I could see where Pac is coming from...

[fcastro1]

You never answered the question. So should we excuse every fighter from tests who claims they are weakened by them?

no we shouldn't, but pac has proof because he lost for the only time in 10 years. he is willing to compromise so why cant floyd.

[IMDAZED]

no we shouldn't, but pac has proof because he lost for the only time in 10 years. he is willing to compromise so why cant floyd.

Exactly.

BTW...What's the proof?

[Pullcounter]

A lot of things are real.

exactly! pac's believes that taking blood while he's cutting weight will effect his performance. this is real and will have a negative effect on pac mentally and psychologically.

Again, should we excuse all fighters who claim they can't take a test because it affects them mentally?

again, if the NASC rules that more rigorous tests are needed, then pac would not be exempt.