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  • IMDAZED
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    You think pac is exactly the same as you and has the same thoughts and thought patterns as you.

    pac is not you. pac doesn't think like you.
    Good to know.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #42
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      We wouldn't. We wouldn't give a ****.

      "Uhh...I can't take these tests. It affects me mentally."
      That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get

      read the rest at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...2709-2002Apr29

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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        We wouldn't. We wouldn't give a ****.

        "Uhh...I can't take these tests. It affects me mentally."
        when tyson was in his prime his opponents lost before they got into the ring becuase they were mentally defeated. mental is an important aspect of boxing so why do you disregard it.

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          #44
          Originally posted by fcastro1
          when tyson was in his prime his opponents lost before they got into the ring becuase they were mentally defeated. mental is an important aspect of boxing so why do you disregard it.
          No one is disregarding the mental aspect. What we're saying is that someone having a "mental" problem with taking tests is irrelevant.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get

            read the rest at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...2709-2002Apr29
            That doesn't matter. If this test was implemented for all (highly doubtful), should we excuse the fighters who claim they are affected "mentally" by it?

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            • FLY TY
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              #46
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get

              read the rest at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...2709-2002Apr29
              this guy's a prizefighter, and he's been around a while....

              at the same time, he claims to be so spiritual, and so "connected to GOD."

              excuse me, if i call bull****, when he claims he's superstitious, and will be mentally affected if he gives a teaspoon of blood a few days before the fight. if you're strong mentally and spiritually, as manny claims, then the blood thing shouldn't matter....he can't have it both ways.

              it may be a good thing if the fight doesn't happen for him, because from what i can tell, manny may have lost the fight already, in his own mind. if h agrees to testing, he'll definitely lose, and that'll give the *******s the excuses they need....

              he wasn't 100%, even though a teaspoon of blood is replaced naturally in the body in less than an hour, let alone 3 days.

              **** the fight, like mayweather said, he'll never get full credit anyways....

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                #47
                Originally posted by tyde13
                losing a teaspoon of blood, days before a fight, is enough to affect you once you get into the ring?

                c'mon pull, you been sipping too much of that top rank kool-aid...
                What about if its mental? Remember not everybody is the same.... I seriously doubt it will weaken him physically. But, if mentally he feels weakens him, could he be weaken once he gets in the ring?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  No one is disregarding the mental aspect. What we're saying is that someone having a "mental" problem with taking tests is irrelevant.
                  how is it irrelevant? pac might be mentally defeated before he gets into the ring because he may think the tests took something out of him.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by fcastro1
                    when tyson was in his prime his opponents lost before they got into the ring becuase they were mentally defeated. mental is an important aspect of boxing so why do you disregard it.
                    manny is ranked #1 in the world...not a fair comparison.

                    tyson's opponents lost mentally, b/c they saw tyson, and just couldn't imagine having what it takes to beat him....that's plausible.

                    donating a teaspoon of blood days before the fight, doesn't ring true as an excuse for losing, especially for somebody as mentally and spiritually strong as manny claims to be.....am i the only person who senses hypocracy?

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      how is it irrelevant? pac might be mentally defeated before he gets into the ring because he may think the tests took something out of him.
                      Sorry bud. Using this logic, any fighter should be allowed to avoid any kind of testing they feel "weakens" them mentally. I guess you think that's ok.

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