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This article is based on this (facts)the steroid acc's didn't carry weight, until the man started dodging random tests....
you're right, he's willing to take blood and urine tests, provided...
1) HE KNOWS WHEN HE'LL BE BLOOD TESTED...
pac has agreed to random urine tests..... but we know many 'roids can't be traced in urine.
http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com...files/hgh.html
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USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing
Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing:
A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.
No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition.
It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this.
There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2
Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight.
its a psychological / mental thing for pac. why would pac make a fight against one of the best boxers in boxing today with a mental and psychological handicap?why does it matter whether the fighters came out BEFORE or AFTER sr.???
malinaggi nor contron have any ties to the mayweathers, so i doesn't matter when they came out and cosigned....
last week, cotto came out and said it's su****ious manny doesn't want to be tested......should we discount this also, b/c Sr. came out first? oh, i forgot, he's a former drug abuser, so nothing he says carries wieght....
bottom line, just like cotto came out, and said, as a clean fighter, he'd have no objections if it was him asked to be tested, you can bet many other ppl feel the same way, and as long as this drags out, and if the fight gets cancelled, more and more ppl will also voice their su****ions....
but since floyd sr. came out first, we shouldn't pay attention to what anybody else says?
anyways this:
A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January.Comment
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First of all I have never ever said Sr is a former drug abuser. But, in reality IMO what he says don't carry weight not because he did drugs, and I don't know why you would feel like that about him, but because Manny pretty much ruined Sr pockets by destroying 2 of Sr guys in the ring. And, because Sr is Jr father. So IMO he has an agenda behind all this. It has nothing to do with Sr being a former drug abuser. Where did you get that at?why does it matter whether the fighters came out BEFORE or AFTER sr.???
malinaggi nor contron have any ties to the mayweathers, so i doesn't matter when they came out and cosigned....
last week, cotto came out and said it's su****ious manny doesn't want to be tested......should we discount this also, b/c Sr. came out first? oh, i forgot, he's a former drug abuser, so nothing he says carries wieght....
bottom line, just like cotto came out, and said, as a clean fighter, he'd have no objections if it was him asked to be tested, you can bet many other ppl feel the same way, and as long as this drags out, and if the fight gets cancelled, more and more ppl will also voice their su****ions....
but since floyd sr. came out first, we shouldn't pay attention to what anybody else says?
And, I don't know about all that. because, Greg Leon said in one of his mailbags that he asked a few boxers and they told him that they would of also refuse that kind of demand. And, if you didn't know G. Leon is a huge Mayweather guy... So really has no reason to make that up...
For your last sentence is that Sr set that seed of doubt. And, like I have been saying your brain is the most powerful muscle you have. So even if people didn't think about it before once they heard of Sr comments they might be like well that makes sense. Do you see what I am saying? But, there was no proof behind the allegations.Comment
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Victor Conte - the man you quoted. Please note what you said about urine for detection then compare it to what he said:
'In my opinion, blood testing for the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is more important for detecting possible blood doping or use of EPO than it is for human growth hormone. Measuring hematocrit levels (percentage of red blood cells to total whole blood volume) is very important. For example, even without a positive urine test for EPO, cyclists are temporarily suspended for two weeks if their hematocrit is greater than 50%. An elevated hematocrit can provide a significant advantage to a fighter by enhancing oxygen uptake and utilization. This would benefit a fighter in training and especially during the later rounds of a fight."Comment
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yea.....just read there is a urine test for EPO, but there are problems with it, as the body naturally produces a protein in urine, after strenuous exercise, that is similar to EPO. so in other words, a urine test alone may not be enough to differentiate btw. the two.Comment
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