Steroid Testing-Straigh To The Point

[fcastro1]

That's not proof. We need a direct correlation between the tablespoon and his performance in the ring. He's lost before, right?

pac has a case floyd does not. if you believe he is on something then thats your view but pac has a point and floyd has an assumption, that is the difference.

[Doctor_Tenma]

why are you making assumptions when pac has reasons and has been clean throughout his career. Why do people think he is lying is what i want to know?

He has already lied. Since the start Pacquiao said he didn't want to be tested 48 hours before facing Mayweather. Everyone and their mothers used that as some sort of defense. I was one of the vey few (Maybe only) that said I was more inclined to believe Arum here. I mean, Arum was throwing that 30 day cut off crap since the start. I was wondering where that crap was coming from. Weeks later, Pacquiao came out and said he wanted a 30 day cut off. If that isn't lying...don't know what to tell you. The sad part is, people continued to defend him.

[jrosales13]

Your last statement is telling. Again, Shane Mosley had never been linked either. Neither had Evander Holyfield. We didn't find out until years later. But still, your premise is wrong.

Person #1: You're on drugs.

Person #2: No I'm not, prove it!

Person #1: OK take this test.

Person #2: No, I'm suing.

Actually Shane was linked to Balco was he not? That is how everything got out to the open right?

Evender Holyfiield= Evan Fields

They were linked, Pac is not until that day comes then you can come talk to me...

All you guys trying to speak for everybody, I can not speak for nobody else. I can only speak for myself. And, I am going to be real I am clean I don't drink or do drugs. And, for me personally if I didn't have to take a drug test I wouldn't. So for me it would go like this.

PERSON 1: You are on drugs
ME- No I am not.
PERSON 1: Take this test
Me- No fuck you, fuck off...
PERSON 1: Well if you clean and you have nothing to hide just take it.
Me- No, I don't have to so now get the fuck out my face

That is how it would go down if some bull**** like that happen to me. I can only speak for myself not for everybody else... maybe bro you should try to same.

[BritishBoxing92]

for hevans sake just take the tests and prove these fools wrong....pac man aint on steds

[Konstantin]

I don't see a problem with having random drug testing starting now until the fight. But taking a blood test 24 hours before the fight is pointless and at that point it's just harassment. There is no reason to test 24 hours before the fight. They have the biggest fight of their life on the table infront of them and the last thing they need is to be woken up in the middle of the night for a blood test.

Infact, I don't really see a reason to have a test for the week coming into the fight. A week's worth of being on steroids is not going to do anything for him, and the week before the fight is the time people tone down their training.

[Doctor_Tenma]

proof is that he lost the only time he did it, thats enough proof you or anyone needs. on the other hand floyd i asking for extra tests without no evidence.

1. He had to make SFW.

2. He didn't eat because he was already at the 130 mark. He went to sleep and missed dinner.

That said, not an excuse at all.

Now, Pacquiao is a WW here. He has been coming into the weigh in weighing 143. If blood was drawn 1 or 2 days before the fight, he can eat as much as he wants regardless. You see the difference here? Or are you gonna ignore this again?

[FLY TY]

Yes he is a hypocrite, why people act so surprise that he is? He has a real big religious belief yet he cheated on his wife. Holyfield was that same way. I don't give a fuck what this man does in his personal life.

But, if mentally he feels it will weaken him, yes is hypocrisy but it is what it is.... We not in his shoes so really we have no idea how it really effects him. All we doing is judging from the outside looking in...

All I do know is that this man has never I repeat never been linked to steroid abuser, distributor, company, or has had any talk of steroids, HGH, or EPO... So I am not going to assume his guilt until there is some kind of proof... And, right now there is none.

so, if we agree the man is being hypocritical, and the reasons he's giving for not wanting to be tested, conflict with his open religious beliefs,


can it be said, that ....

1)manny is in the wrong here

2) manny is holding up the fight

3) manny needs to man up

[fcastro1]

1. He had to make SFW.

2. He didn't eat because he was already at the 130 mark. He went to sleep and missed dinner.

That said, not an excuse at all.

Now, Pacquiao is a WW here. He has been coming into the weigh in weighing 143. If blood was drawn 1 or 2 days before the fight, he can eat as much as he wants. See the difference? Or are you gonna ignore this again?

maybe thats the reason. who knows. filipinos are supersticious people if he believes its a bad omen or that it will affect him then why accept.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It would help if I actually ate big macs. Semantics aside, I understand your frustration. If someone were to attack Cotto in the same way I would be infuriated, but I would also expect Cotto to prove himself in the right before expressing his outrage. Cotto is NOT perfect, and part of what I admire about him is his humility in accepting this without attempting to polish his public image. He does not make excuses.

If you were honest with yourself you would acknowledge that it is Pacquiao's responsibility to do all he can to ensure that he and his team have the highest levels of integrity and are not guilty of any misconduct. Right now it appears that he is more offended by the notion that anyone would assault his vaunted image rather than submitting to the stringent blood tests. He and/or his team have made a number of excuses to avoid them. If, after taking the tests and they prove negative, he wants to play the victim he may do so and I doubt too many would deny him that right. For now, though, I do not think he may be afforded that luxury as he is a public figure, and these are the sometimes ugly realities of success and fortune.

The information the public is learning about the ease of evading certain tests keeps stacking. He could be innocent, but he is doing himself a disservice by being too principled. Pacquiao should not consider it beneath his dignity or contempt to prove his accusers wrong and lay doubts to rest.

Well said, especially the bold

[jrosales13]

so, if we agree the man is being hypocritical, and the reasons he's giving for not wanting to be tested, conflict with his open religious beliefs,


can it be said, that ....

1)manny is in the wrong here

2) manny is holding up the fight

3) manny needs to man up

How is he wrong if he feels mentally that blood test days before the fight weakens him? If that is how he feels it is what it is bro...

And, again I can go both ways.

1) Floyd is in the wrong for singling out Pac asking for this without any proof

2) Floyd is holding up the fight

3) Floyd should man up and just fight this fight like he did his last 40 fights.

That is just an example for one. But, I don't feel that way because I can see both sides of the argument. Maybe you should try to see the same thing...