Steroid Testing-Straigh To The Point

[FLY TY]

come on dude. you know its a psychological/mental thing with pac and drawing blood before a fight.

why would you want to see floyd beat pac when pac isn't 100% psychologically and mentally?

losing a teaspoon of blood, days before a fight, is enough to affect you once you get into the ring?

c'mon pull, you been sipping too much of that top rank kool-aid...

[Pullcounter]

Yup. Manny Pacquiao, who is required to take tests for performance enhancers, could give a flying **** what concoction is being made for him by a person he pays thousands of dollars to.

Okie dokie.

You think pac is exactly the same as you and has the same thoughts and thought patterns as you.

pac is not you. pac doesn't think like you.

[fcastro1]

b/c losing a teaspoon of blood won't affect a fighter, and anybody that tells you diff is full of it...

there are plenty of reasons to suugest the pacman is on something, but when somebody does all they can to NOT prove otherwise, it makes you think.

i, for 1, didn't think manny was using supplements, but the way this thing has played out, makes me think twice.

if dude is clean, then there's NO reason why he wouldn't agree to terms. like i said, if it was pints of blood they were gonna take, i'd sympathize, but the reality is that it'll be a teaspoon here and there, no harm in that, if you're clean.

c'mon, its 40 million dollars......

please explain me the reasons?

i can make you a list as to why he is clean.

he has practically kd everyone he has fought since junior featherweight. he was koing guys as a skinny teenager. (you suggest he was taking steroids back then)he has not been kod in the last 10 years. although he has moved to welterweight his fighting weight has only increased by 4 pounds since featherweight.

and when you see his recent knockouts they have come through an accumulation of punches where the opponent was in the act of throwing a punch when pac caught them. thats a double wammie.

nothing to uggest he is on **** because his career has been consistant since he was a boy.

[Doctor_Tenma]

You think pac is exactly the same as you and has the same thoughts and thought patterns as you.

pac is not you. pac doesn't think like you.

You buy those lame excuses

[fcastro1]

losing a teaspoon of blood, days before a fight, is enough to affect you once you get into the ring?

c'mon pull, you been sipping too much of that top rank kool-aid...

you never heard the expression that boxing is 50% physical and 50% mental.

pac has a phobia because the last time he did it he lost. why wouyld he risk being a 100% because of mayweather.

[Pullcounter]

losing a teaspoon of blood, days before a fight, is enough to affect you once you get into the ring?

c'mon pull, you been sipping too much of that top rank kool-aid...

"That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get."

read the rest at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...2709-2002Apr29

[Pullcounter]

You buy those lame excuses

"That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get."

read the rest at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...2709-2002Apr29

[Biolink]

At the risk of starting up even more back and forths.

If Manny were on something, is him being an 'uneducated" guy from Philippines an excuse?

I could definitely feel for Manny if something like that came about. As I'm sure there are a lot of people that want to take advantage of him, do to his lack of book smarts

On the other hand uneducated or not, he's not a child.

Who's to say Ariza wasn't lying as far as the "He doesn't know what he takes"

[Pullcounter]

At the risk of starting up even more back and forths.

If Manny were on something, is him being an 'uneducated" guy from Philippines an excuse?

I could definitely feel for Manny if something like that came about. As I'm sure there are a lot of people that want to take advantage of him, do to his lack of book smarts

On the other hand uneducated or not, he's not a child.

Who's to say Ariza wasn't lying as far as the "He doesn't know what he takes"

if pac doesn't know what he's taking then he's not liable for for it. do you really expect someone from a third world country growing up in abject poverty to know what someone from a Western country knows? I mean really? even most people from Western countries don't know what's in viagra, all they know is that it makes their **** harder longer. I mean people from third world countries still think eating rhino horns (molecularly and chemically the same substance in human hair) is beneficial to health. I MEAN COME ON!

[IMDAZED]

well, how would you go about testing whether or not its a psychological / mental thing?

We wouldn't. We wouldn't give a ****.

"Uhh...I can't take these tests. It affects me mentally."