You Guys Have To Admit That This Isnt Right

[M.I Truth ?]

I understand its never been used before. Things have changed in the last 40 years. What would be a better place to start something that reflects positive on the sport than the most watched fight ever? It bothers me that people are trying so hard to give this a negative spin. I dont care that its Floyds asking for it or even the the reason he is asking for it. Its a positive change that would be great. This could be something that starts off being used for the big fights and over time trickle down. Take Pac and Mayweather and both of the agendas out of it then ask yourself if its a good idea. If it is then why not do it at boxings biggest event as an example to all?

[aether]

That's a reasonable response. So tell us, if the proposal was an accusation of Pacquiao cheating, why did his team agree to it in the first place?

cause he wants to make the fight too. he said he was willing to undergo the extra tests cause it was such a big deal to the mayweather camp. it is known that he stated before he was uncomfortable giving blood before the fight. interpretations of arum and roach of the time frame may be different, but that has always been consistent. no blood close before the fight.

but when gbp and people from mayweather's camp came out with damaging statements during the negotiations, he got irked. and now threatening to sue. i think he felt he was the one willing to compromise, yet portrayed as he trying to hide something.

of course, all i said would be pointless if he was guilty of juicing. but let's assume he's innocent cause that's what he is right now according to the evidence we do have. he has the right to get mad, has the right to reject the tests, and the right to file a lawsuit if he felt his name was damaged.

[wakwak]

The fight should not happen and mayweather should be the G.O.A.T. because pac is on roids/PED/HGH.

[aether]

I understand its never been used before. Things have changed in the last 40 years. What would be a better place to start something that reflects positive on the sport than the most watched fight ever? It bothers me that people are trying so hard to give this a negative spin. I dont care that its Floyds asking for it or even the the reason he is asking for it. Its a positive change that would be great. This could be something that starts off being used for the big fights and over time trickle down. Take Pac and Mayweather and both of the agendas out of it then ask yourself if its a good idea. If it is then why not do it at boxings biggest event as an example to all?

i agree. it would be good for the sport to impose stricter drug testing... but manny has every right to reject it. he isn't obligated to take the tests, especially when the reason behind the test is not for the betterment of the sport, but because of malicious attacks on his name and accomplishments.

[intoccabile]

that shouldn't be even the question in the first place. no evidence of him being nothing but clean.

yet to you, he must prove something. it isn't about the extra tests. its about how the issue is affecting his name. no matter how you slice it, floyd's camp had no right to make him take the additional tests and manny is not obligated to comply with such terms.

he has every right to reject it.

if he was juicing, and you are right, then too fucking bad. innocent till proven guilty, burden of proof in on his accusers.

Innocent till proven guilty, huh?
You realize he and his team are rejecting the only possible way to actually prove whether or not he is either. So when a innocent man refuses to prove he is innocent, what do you assume?

You cannot just take someones word in situations like this if they are unwilling to prove they are telling the truth. This whole thing could be finished easily. If I was the best boxer in the world, i'd expect people to have bad things to say about me and I'd shut them down each and every time.

The blood testing imo although proposed by Floyds team, is something that this fight needs anyhow, and any other fight. This fight is so big, so huge, that IMO some things have to be done different to secure the resutls legitimacy .

[intoccabile]

i agree. it would be good for the sport to impose stricter drug testing... but manny has every right to reject it. he isn't obligated to take the tests, especially when the reason behind the test is not for the betterment of the sport, but because of malicious attacks on his name and accomplishments.

I also firmly believe that this style of drug testing will take over boxing, as it should, and better the sport.

But only if it works it's way in this particular fight. It's not about " oh I shouldn't have to ", you know, when someone is accused of something, witnesses or not, an investigation occurs.

Someone could die today or tomorrow, I'll tell the cops it was you - You're going to be investigated. There will actually be procedures taken place that "prove" you had nothing to do with it, not just you saying " I dont know what you're talking about ".

That's how these things work, unfortunately. If Manny was caught already, we wouldn't be having this arguement, duh -.-;. Everything starts with an accusation.

[HighFlyer]

Like I said Pacquiao is a liar and that's what he did, he lied. Pacquiao said 1-2 days but they're all in it together, it was Arum throwing that 30 day crap around. It was more obvious that it came from Pacquiao, when he himself said 30 days, not Arum but Pacquiao.

May is a proven liar he cheat JMM by weighing 2 lbs heavier than their catchweight. Until now no one has a solid evidence that Pac is a liar lol.

*****s are ignorant bastards,

[Ray*]

the reason why the tests is even being considered is because of floyd sr.'s baseless accusations, not because of floyd's desire to make the sport cleaner.

again, manny has every right to reject the additional stipulations.

I dont care if its crackhead that started the rumours and i dont care if Pac has never test positive before, Whether or not the accusation from a crackhead is baseless or not the facts are Team Pac reject the idea of keeping our sport clean by wanting a 30 day leeway of not getting tested......That in it self is an admission of guilty if there was one.

[intoccabile]

May is a proven liar he cheat JMM by weighing 2 lbs heavier than their catchweight. Until now no one has a solid evidence that Pac is a liar lol.

*****s are ignorant bastards,

and no one has solid evidence he isn't a liar either.
Crazy how the works, huh?

You also have to wonder why he'd turn down so so so much money (that he'd get in this fight) to avoid proving himself innocent.

Say what you want, but at the end of the day, pacman is the one who looks su****ious. Sure, floyd came in heavy against JMM, but still under the initial limit they agreed on (147), and he paid his fine for it.. and agreed to the stipulation pacs team proposed if he were to try and come in heavy again.

[Ray*]

I also firmly believe that this style of drug testing will take over boxing, as it should, and better the sport.

But only if it works it's way in this particular fight. It's not about " oh I shouldn't have to ", you know, when someone is accused of something, witnesses or not, an investigation occurs.

Someone could die today or tomorrow, I'll tell the cops it was you - You're going to be investigated. There will actually be procedures taken place that "prove" you had nothing to do with it, not just you saying " I dont know what you're talking about ".

That's how these things work, unfortunately. If Manny was caught already, we wouldn't be having this arguement, duh -.-;. Everything starts with an accusation.

Thank you..Green k on the way, I still dont know why people are oppose to change.