Comments Thread For: All That’s Golden Doesn’t Glitter

[cencarnacion]

I fail to see why this is all GBP fuault they could not have known Manny would say no and his whole camp throw a hissy fit on the matter. All Manny needed to do was say yes and this would not have happeaned, him saying no caused this.

Very shallow analysis there, Gambler1981. I have no problem with GBP asking for USADA testing. It can be negotiated. It started falling apart when GBP and the Mayweathers started accusing and insinuating that Pacman is on PEDs. In the art of negotiations, you DO NOT INSULT A MAN's INTEGRITY. If I were buying a house from you and I say that your family live like pigs, you would probably kick my ass and not worry about selling the house. That is what happened here. GBP and the Mayweathers do not have scruples. Pacman never said anything negative until he was pushed.

[gqjohnb]

Very shallow analysis there, Gambler1981. I have no problem with GBP asking for USADA testing. It can be negotiated. It started falling apart when GBP and the Mayweathers started accusing and insinuating that Pacman is on PEDs. In the art of negotiations, you DO NOT INSULT A MAN's INTEGRITY. If I were buying a house from you and I say that your family live like pigs, you would probably kick my ass and not worry about selling the house. That is what happened here. GBP and the Mayweathers do not have scruples. Pacman never said anything negative until he was pushed.

I think pac's being a little over sensitive here... DLH just said you have to wonder about him and ellerbe said he saw no reason manny would refuse the proposal. Can you enlighten me as to what I missed?

[The Gambler1981]

Very shallow analysis there, Gambler1981. I have no problem with GBP asking for USADA testing. It can be negotiated. It started falling apart when GBP and the Mayweathers started accusing and insinuating that Pacman is on PEDs. In the art of negotiations, you DO NOT INSULT A MAN's INTEGRITY. If I were buying a house from you and I say that your family live like pigs, you would probably kick my ass and not worry about selling the house. That is what happened here. GBP and the Mayweathers do not have scruples. Pacman never said anything negative until he was pushed.

They didn't say that though, this all resulted from Pacman not saying yes to the one request alll he had to do was say yes and the fight was made nothing more would come of it. Instead he said no and they threw out draw your own conclusions.

If you take it as what you are saying that is part of the problem.

[fatmash]

i think the only loser in all this is manny !!.............. for me to refuse to take the tests 30 days before the fight is a clear indecation that he has something to hide !

we are not ****** ! fighters know how to get these drugs in and ultimatly OUT of there systems in time that they get the all clear on drug tests !

mosely was on drugs for de la hoya 2 a known fact ! and got the all clear !! no pun intended :P

manny needs to man up and agree to random drug tests simple as that ! if floyd is ready and willin to have random blood samples then manny should to!!


and as for the floyd sr been a crack head ......... he looks like one ! sounds like one ! he was convicted for sellin the stuff ! and he has that lung problem no doubt caused by smokein it !

and as for sr and jr lookin like monkeys! sr just does im sorry ! not racist to point that out! i know many a white person who look like ****! pigs !and monkeys! so i agree with that to !

not jr though he looks more like his mam thank god lol

[cencarnacion]

They didn't say that though, this all resulted from Pacman not saying yes to the one request alll he had to do was say yes and the fight was made nothing more would come of it. Instead he said no and they threw out draw your own conclusions.

If you take it as what you are saying that is part of the problem.

For your benefit, here's what Oscar said that is in Jake's article. If you were in Pacman's shoes and do not take offense, then you are living in a different world.

Oscar Dela Hoya--

“Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, “Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.” I’m not saying yes or no [about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs]; I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal.”

Oscar Dela Hoya--

“We can paint ourselves as the cleanest sport by doing this test. Why don’t you want to do it? C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test.”

[cencarnacion]

I think pac's being a little over sensitive here... DLH just said you have to wonder about him and ellerbe said he saw no reason manny would refuse the proposal. Can you enlighten me as to what I missed?

C'mon now gqjohnb. Oversensitive??? Get real. Here is what ODLH said just to give you an opportunity to reconsider. Seriously, let's be honest here. If you were the Pacman, don't tell me you would not take offense.


Oscar Dela Hoya--

“Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, “Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.” I’m not saying yes or no [about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs]; I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal.”

Oscar Dela Hoya--

“We can paint ourselves as the cleanest sport by doing this test. Why don’t you want to do it? C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test.”

[KASHIF KHAN]

I'm shocked that people even see this as normal. It's not normal to accuse another fighter without any other reason but that they beat people in good fashion. Floyd jr doesn't care if he makes sense or not. Its out of order to try and damage another fighters career full stop. Does that make sense people? A fighter trains hard all his life to eventually get the credit for his accomplishments. I'm so glad that Manny Pacquiao has put his foot down against those crooks. Now that they have to deal with a court who don't take any nonsense they will have to think about their actions.

[sneaky jepoy]

First of all, that was a welterweight fight with a catch weight clause written in.

Last time I checked, catch weights weren't weight classes.

The catch weight was written in to the contract, as was the penalty clause.

If you want to get technical, there you go.

so you also believe that pac-cotto was a welterweight fight?

with penalty clause of 1 million per pound over the agreed catch weight.

[cencarnacion]

i think the only loser in all this is manny !!.............. for me to refuse to take the tests 30 days before the fight is a clear indecation that he has something to hide !

we are not ****** ! fighters know how to get these drugs in and ultimatly OUT of there systems in time that they get the all clear on drug tests !

mosely was on drugs for de la hoya 2 a known fact ! and got the all clear !! no pun intended :P

manny needs to man up and agree to random drug tests simple as that ! if floyd is ready and willin to have random blood samples then manny should to!!


and as for the floyd sr been a crack head ......... he looks like one ! sounds like one ! he was convicted for sellin the stuff ! and he has that lung problem no doubt caused by smokein it !

and as for sr and jr lookin like monkeys! sr just does im sorry ! not racist to point that out! i know many a white person who look like ****! pigs !and monkeys! so i agree with that to !

not jr though he looks more like his mam thank god lol

Fatmash, LOL!!! U crack me up. I'm bald, short and pudgy. When I hear about it from people, I just say 'you're right and I'm proud of it'. Then we just laugh. And that will be the end of it.

[lcheezy]

floyd jr has'nt accused pac of anything.he just wants to make sure that pac is clean before he whips his ass.remember everything is already agreed on including the money.this is a health issue.plus the p4p status and legacy.no excuses afterwards. easy work for the real p4p king money mayweather.