Greatest heavyweight ever...realistically?

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #81
    Cassius Clay
    larry holmes
    Lennox lewis

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #82
      Originally posted by Freedom2014
      In my opinion there were many great heavyweights, but no single "greatest" heavyweight.

      We cannot accurately compare fighters of different generations, so we can never know for sure.
      This is realistically the most accurate post here and it should be left at that.

      Well done......again.

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      • NearHypnos
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        #83
        I'm not sure how I'd realistically like Ali vs Lewis or either of the k bros for that matter. Barring a KO I dont even know how anyone that much smaller can stop the one two clinch of Wlad...

        I think Ali is BETTER overall, but size matters and the sport has evolved. Sure, it might not SEEM like it, but I believe the fighters have evolved.. I think for the most part, the bigger fighters have gotten more skilled. Call me f ucking insane but even the next generation up seemed formidable with Larry Holmes and company.

        I just honestly don't know how Ali fares REALISTICALLY (as in man to man not all things being equal and training in the same time, etc) vs Larry Holmes, Bowe, young Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, the size/skill ratio of the K Bros, etc.

        Not everyone could box and move like Ali THEN and his speed would still be rare but modern fighters have evolved from all this, from Ali and the past greats.

        All things being equal I'd roll with Ali.

        But if they ****** Ali out of his time and threw him in vs the Wlad of now or Vitali or Lennox... Well I wouldn't be betting the house on Ali. I think Heavyweight has been most prone to the "evolution" of sorts. The smaller classes have always had what they do now. Not so with heavyweight. Not with this abundance. I feel that everyime a special fighter hits the scene it makes the future fighters better..everyone steps up and its a cycle of one upping.

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          #84
          Muhammed Ali!

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          • Larry the boss
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            #85
            Ali......Prime for prime no way in hell does Vitali beat Ali

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              #86
              Originally posted by NearHypnos
              I'm not sure how I'd realistically like Ali vs Lewis or either of the k bros for that matter. Barring a KO I dont even know how anyone that much smaller can stop the one two clinch of Wlad...

              I think Ali is BETTER overall, but size matters and the sport has evolved. Sure, it might not SEEM like it, but I believe the fighters have evolved.. I think for the most part, the bigger fighters have gotten more skilled. Call me f ucking insane but even the next generation up seemed formidable with Larry Holmes and company.

              I just honestly don't know how Ali fares REALISTICALLY (as in man to man not all things being equal and training in the same time, etc) vs Larry Holmes, Bowe, young Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, the size/skill ratio of the K Bros, etc.

              Not everyone could box and move like Ali THEN and his speed would still be rare but modern fighters have evolved from all this, from Ali and the past greats.

              All things being equal I'd roll with Ali.

              But if they ****** Ali out of his time and threw him in vs the Wlad of now or Vitali or Lennox... Well I wouldn't be betting the house on Ali. I think Heavyweight has been most prone to the "evolution" of sorts. The smaller classes have always had what they do now. Not so with heavyweight. Not with this abundance. I feel that everyime a special fighter hits the scene it makes the future fighters better..everyone steps up and its a cycle of one upping.
              Expect "Red K" or whatever that crap is the little girls throw around here.

              Good post.

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              • SlySlickSmooth
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                #87
                I would say Ali.

                But Prime George Foreman could take out ANY heavyweight on any given night, I don't care how you fight stylistically, you have a good shot of getting wasted by Big George if you step in the ring with him.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                  I would say Ali.

                  But Prime George Foreman could take out ANY heavyweight on any given night, I don't care how you fight stylistically, you have a good shot of getting wasted by Big George if you step in the ring with him.
                  Naw..Ali beats him 10 times out of 10...and he was far from prime when he fought Foreman

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by NearHypnos
                    the sport has evolved. Sure, it might not SEEM like it, but I believe the fighters have evolved.. I think for the most part, the bigger fighters have gotten more skilled.
                    Originally posted by NearHypnos
                    modern fighters have evolved from all this, from Ali and the past greats.


                    Please show me a heavyweight with a greater skill set.

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                      #90
                      Ha..

                      Time to compare footage of guys half the size of modern HWs and act surprised that they were faster...

                      Same **** different day

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