Greatest heavyweight ever...realistically?

**RightCross94** · 12-17-2009, 04:34 AM

Muhammad Ali

**The Stone Roses** · 12-17-2009, 04:35 AM

Muhammad Ali...he fought basicaly every style....Joe Frazier - bobbing and weaving, head movement similar to tyson, incredible left hook.....Sonny Liston - bully, devastating puncher....George Foreman - Wild Brawler, the hardest puncher in Heavyweight history......Ali had the ability to stand toe-to-toe, he had an incredible chin, underrated power....and before he was banned for 4 years....Ali was practically impossible to hit...the fastest heavyweight ever....fastest puncher and fastest footwork.....lastly...Ali's intelligence, ability to adapt, heart and willpower......end of thread.

**miron_lang** · 12-17-2009, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by bunce101

By that I mean when you think about fights like Vitali KLitschko vs Ali you have to take into account the size disparity, aswell as styles making fights because I could see Klitschko having a much harder time against prime mike tyson than Ali would, breaking it down and taking into account alll the aspects that make a great fighter, who is THE greatest heavyweight of all time(the one that beats the most fighters and the most styles. nobody can beat everybody). I'll give mine after I see a few other pepoles

Note - don't just give a name, give reasoning on why a certain fighter could handle so many different styles and fighters which make him the greatest

Muhammad Ali

The young one tamed a established beast older than him.

The old one one tamed a established beast younger than him.

He beats everyone that is worth beating.

**Motofan** · 12-17-2009, 04:37 AM

Not saying he is the greatest, but Lewis when he was on would be capable of beating any other heavyweight in history. Not saying he would, but he had the tools. Just something to think about outside of everyone just saying "Ali."

**The Stone Roses** · 12-17-2009, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by miron_lang

Muhammad Ali

The young one tamed a established beast older than him.

The old one one tamed a established beast younger than him.

He beats everyone that is worth beating.

I agree....a dancing Ali shocked the world....a flat footed Ali shocked the world

**RightCross94** · 12-17-2009, 04:49 AM

Judging from all the bull**** talk on here lately one might even be convinced Pacquiao is the greatest HW of all time.

But he has never fought there you say? But he TKO'd Oscar and he has a great left hand!!

**Bright-Eyes** · 12-17-2009, 04:55 AM

Coming back after three and a half years to fight and beat the best,becoming king in one of the most competitive divisions of all time in pretty hard to beat.

Joe Louis,Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali were all past it once they returned,but Ali's success in his return was far greater than Louis's and Tyson's.

**The Stone Roses** · 12-17-2009, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by RightCross94

Judging from all the bull**** talk on here lately one might even be convinced Pacquiao is the greatest HW of all time.

But he has never fought there you say? But he TKO'd Oscar and he has a great left hand!!

no kidding son....pacquiao is greater than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali combined....pacquiao could beat Ali at Welterweight...But Ali has to fight at a catchweight of 145

**JOM'S** · 12-17-2009, 05:17 AM

ali talk the talk and backed it up by walking the walk ....

- size wise perfect heavy weight @ 6'3
- speed one of the fastest in not the fastest
- solid chin never been "koed" only stopage loss to Larry Holmes on his stool (and he fought the ATG hardest punchers foreman, fraizer, shaever)
- boxing IQ
- style boxer-puncher
- well conditioned fighter that can fight 15 rounds
- fought everyone of note and challenge himself in one of the best & most competitive era of the HW

Greatest heavyweight ever...realistically?