Why i wont give Mayweather props if he does beat Manny

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #81
    Originally posted by p4p-champ
    What horse**** are you babbling about now. If Manny looses its an off-night because he has fought tougher opposition? gethe****outtahe, you should be embarrassed to even post such trash. The fighter that loses this bout, is losing to the better man, plain and simple. FULL props goes to the victor.

    You are saying that, not me.

    If Manny loses it might be that its bad style match up, it might simply be because Mayweather is simply a better fighter in a head to head match up. I have already said though.........pfft.


    Im not embarrassed to post such trash because i didn't lol

    You are just putting words in my mouth to make a lame point that i already smashed to bits!

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    • Shadows
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      #82
      I understand the point DK is trying to make.

      However, the sort of reactions this thread is getting was to be expected.

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        #83
        Originally posted by pugay_kamay
        Floyd is definitely one of the skilled boxer ever laced up gloves, that's not a question but it is a fact. Apparently, talent will be useless unless you will use it and push it to the limits. Then on, you will understand yourself, in effect you will able to understand the others as well.

        Ali pushed himself to fight the best, Leonard, Duran, Hagler, etc....

        Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Abdul Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, etc.....

        These athletes push themselves to the limits to satisfy themselves as well as the fans.
        Floyds undefeated....

        He doesnt aim for knock outs and doesnt fight like Gatti....

        Doesnt mean he isnt a GREAT fighter..with amazing talent.

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        • pugay_kamay
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          #84
          Originally posted by Michigan
          Floyds undefeated....

          He doesnt aim for knock outs and doesnt fight like Gatti....

          Doesnt mean he isnt a GREAT fighter..with amazing talent.
          Dude, isn't obvious?

          People with right&correct reasoning are exchanging views here.

          What's your point?

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #85
            Originally posted by pugay_kamay
            Floyd is definitely one of the skilled boxer ever laced up gloves, that's not a question but it is a fact. Apparently, talent will be useless unless you will use it and push it to the limits. Then on, you will understand yourself, in effect you will able to understand the others as well.

            Ali pushed himself to fight the best, Leonard, Duran, Hagler, etc....

            Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Abdul Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, etc.....

            These athletes push themselves to the limits to satisfy themselves as well as the fans.


            Yep. It goes like this, let for arguments sake say Mayweather beats Manny decisively/clearly in a head to head match up and we think!! based on that, that he would of beaten all the fighters Manny beat..........Barrera, Morales etc, fact is he did not and has not, he is also bigger than those fighters so he would of had to have beaten their equivalent in his own!! weight class, he hasn't.

            Therefore even if he wins he is still not rated higher historically as the more accomplished fighter.
            Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 12-02-2009, 04:53 PM.

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            • Dynamite Kid
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              #86
              Originally posted by Shadows
              I understand the point DK is trying to make.

              However, the sort of reactions this thread is getting was to be expected.

              They are the most devoted in the world are'nt they

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              • Shadows
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                #87
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                They are the most devoted in the world are'nt they
                Man, you even got Horus to leave his own thread to come in here and comment.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  Yep. It goes like this, let for arguments sake say Mayweather beats Manny decisively/clearly in a head to head match up and we think!! based on that, that he would of beaten all the fighters Manny beat..........Barrera, Morales etc, fact is he did not and has not, he is also bigger than those fighters so he would of had to have beaten their equivalent in his own!! current weight class (147) he hasn't.

                  Therefore even if he wins he is still not rated higher historically as the more accomplished fighter.
                  Yeah, correct. Another thing, Larry Holmes beat Ali, but Holmes is not ranked higher than Ali. Berbick beat Ali and berbick is not in ATG (does he?). Lewis beats Tyson but Lewis is not ranked higher than Tyson. And so on and so forth.

                  Triangle theory will not apply.

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Shadows
                    Man, you even got Horus to leave his own thread to come in here and comment.

                    LOL

                    That is an achievement in itself. I think i need a BHOF ring for that dont you ?

                    Horus is one of those guys that talks **** but when you make a point he has no answers for he pretends he did not hear it and carry's on debating a point he can!! argue.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                      LOL

                      That is an achievement in itself. I think i need a BHOF ring for that dont you ?

                      Horus is one of those guys that talks **** but when you make a point he has no answers for he pretends he did not hear it and carry's on debating a point he can!! argue.
                      Horus is just an attention whore.

                      I've read a few of his opening posts, but then just laugh and let everyone else talk ****.

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