Why i wont give Mayweather props if he does beat Manny

[Nuurzhaelan]

Well basically yeah.

Think about it. If Pacquiao wins that will surely elevate him to god like status? if Floyd wins he will have just won a one of fight against a great opponent but Floyd has not been consistently fighting the best to come across a potential bad style match, so you have to keep it in perspective if he does win. The reason i say that is because i know a **** load of people will be claiming him to be a better fighter when that does not exactly tell the right story imo.

I am with you on most of that. I have never thought that a win against one opponent means that all of the people on his resume (the guy who lost) automatically get transferred to the winner's resume.

It COULD elevate Pacquiao's status...if and ONLY if he takes the fight at 147 and wins. He does not need to win in spectacular fashion, he just needs to win. A controversial decision could detract from that, however.

[S H O B O X]

Is that right?

Shane Mosley was great. Did he find a way to beat Forrest? Forrest was smacked about Ricardo Mayorga, what does that say?
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finding a way to beat your opponent when your back is against the wall is one way of defining greatness , but what you're trying to tell me is that beating the pound for pound #1 greatest fighter today warrants little recognition ? all because you think its a bad style match up for manny? boxing is full of examples where the so called "bad style match up" has worked the other way .

[djsygo]

Agree.

Floyd is a better boxer than Manny IMO, regardless of styles

He is and whether he wins because its bad style match up or because he simply a better fighter in a head to head match up does not make him a better fighter imo

Its all about resume? Pacquaio even with a loss to Mayweather has a better resume.

So tell me who is a bad matchup for Floyd.

[Dynamite Kid]

You are more likely to run into someone who cant beat you if you consistently fight the best fighters around your weight division, correct ? well Mayweather has not fought Marg, Mosley, Williams, infact who has he fought recently that was regarded a threat in the 147 division

So lets say he beats Pacquiao, then does what after that, nothing? but can proclaim himself to be the best of his era and a greater fighter than Pacquiao ? i dont think so. He will have to fight other challenges before then. Knowing him he will probably fight Shane when he is another how many years older and that will seal a fake career for him.

[Dynamite Kid]

finding a way to beat your opponent when your back is against the wall is one way of defining greatness , but what you're trying to tell me is that beating the pound for pound #1 greatest fighter today warrants little recognition ? all because you think its a bad style match up for manny? boxing is full of examples where the so called "bad style match up" has worked the other way .

Its not even finny how many instance i could throw at you. Please just give up your lame point.

[Dynamite Kid]

So tell me who is a bad matchup for Floyd.

Its like i said, even if its not a bad style match up and comes down to Mayweather simply being a better fighter in a head to head match up it still does equate to being greater. However many will try and it pass it off as that, of he wins of coarse.

[Calilloyd]

So...what? You're telling us that Manny can win and win and win and that is called greatness but the moment that Mayweather stops Manny it's because 'styles make fights'? Come on, man, don't be so disingenuous and tell us what's really going on in that head of yours. You hate Mayweather and you're already making excuses for Pacquiao losing (if he does).

Some people just love to hate.

That sums it up perfectly. Some people seem to have lost their minds when it comes to this fight.

[talip bin osman]

If Mayweather beats Pac i still wont rank him above Pac historically. There is a bad match out there for all fighters, so winning a one of fight against a guy who has been proving himself consistently does not cut it for me. If you have 5 fights against top caliber fighters you have a greater chance of coming across a style nightmare, if you fight a guy who established himself as the best and beat him in a one of fight that does not do a lot for me.
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Just to add.............He will naturally get a degree of props but i wont go overboard like i know a lot of people on here will if he wins.

hey DK...

i know what u mean man...

its like hearns' KO of duran... mr. hearns did get credit for beating an ATG but he is simply nowhere near duran in any credible P4P ATG list...

i really feel PBF will have an easier time to beat MP than vise versa bcoz of the styles...

thats why i would give more props to MP if he wins over PBF...

more than the props i would give PBF if its the other way around...

[Doctor_Tenma]

I've already said that Mayweather beating Pacquiao doesn't make him more accomplished then Pacquiao. That I already knew. But Mayweather would be the better fight out of the two. It's insane to hear someone say this, especially since you view this as 60/40.

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=Dynamite Kid;6848308]You are more likely to run into someone who cant beat you if you consistently fight the best fighters around your weight division, correct ? well Mayweather has not fought Marg, Mosley, Williams, infact who has he fought recently that was regarded a threat in the 147 division

And Pacquaio never fought Guzman, Valero, Campbell, Bradley, Mosley or Williams. So what's your point?