Why i wont give Mayweather props if he does beat Manny

[Syf]

He will naturally get a degree of props but i wont go overboard like i know a lot of people on here will if he wins.

Ok, thats more reasonable. I can roll with that.


Now if Floyd beats Pac, then Berto/Mosley winner, then shatters people's expectations by beating Pdub then retiring

I will consider him very high on my ATG list

[Doctor_Tenma]

Pacquiao has had it easy; think about it. David Diaz, Hatton, Oscar and the only opponent to make it somewhat competitive was Cotto.

[JBell11]

Why i wont give Mayweather props if he does beat Manny. My pal Shadows just PM'd me asked me what i think about the fight so i thought id post the message i sent him. This is my own!! opinion and i dont expect anyone else to subscribe to it but these are my personal thoughts.


Pacquiao vs Mayweather

You'd have go with Mayweather 60/40. It might be more in Mayweather's favour but there is no telling how he will adapt to Pacquiao's style, although thats probably me being optimist more than realistic. I dont like Mayweather at all lol

Ive seen Mayweather knocked out of his comfort zone before but he eventually adapted and went on to win. I expect the same here.

Whitaker used to struggle to get to grips with these awkward fighters like Poli Diaz, Gary Jacobs but once he worked them out he picked them apart. I know these guys are not on Pacquaio's level though

Anyone has a chance early in a fight if they can keep closing the gap but its what happens when they tire and are not able to press that gap as much. When that happens technical superiority usually shines threw imo.

I dont think Manny will lose wide though, well he might lose clearly but it will definitely be competitive because even the fights Manny has lost, besides his KO losses, were competitive fights, plus Manny has terrific stamina and Mayweather is not a particularly big puncher in my estimation.

If Mayweather beats Pac i still wont rank him above Pac historically. There is a bad match out there for all fighters, so winning a one of fight against a guy who has been proving himself consistently does not cut it for me. If you have 5 fights against top caliber fighters you have a greater chance of coming across a style nightmare, if you fight a guy who established himself as the best and beat him in a one of fight that does not do a lot for me.
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I agree with you. Beating Manny will be impressive, beating Manny, Mosely, Cotto, Williams, etc...and his "greatness" truly be appreciated.

[2501]

Mayweather has the best style in boxing. You can't fault him for having a style that is a bad match up for everone

[Dynamite Kid]

So...what? You're telling us that Manny can win and win and win and that is called greatness but the moment that Mayweather stops Manny it's because 'styles make fights'? Come on, man, don't be so disingenuous and tell us what's really going on in that head of yours. You hate Mayweather and you're already making excuses for Pacquiao losing (if he does).

Some people just love to hate.

Well basically yeah.

Think about it. If Pacquiao wins that will surely elevate him to god like status? if Floyd wins he will have just won a one of fight against a great opponent but Floyd has not been consistently fighting the best to come across a potential bad style match, so you have to keep it in perspective if he does win. The reason i say that is because i know a **** load of people will be claiming him to be a better fighter when that does not exactly tell the right story imo.

[GG Marquez]

Ok, thats more reasonable. I can roll with that.


Now if Floyd beats Pac, then Berto/Mosley winner, then shatters people's expectations by beating Pdub then retiring

I will consider him very high on my ATG list

What you are describing is Floyd cleaning out 130....and then cleaning out 147?

Is that accurate?

[Dynamite Kid]

Pacquiao has had it easy; think about it. David Diaz, Hatton, Oscar and the only opponent to make it somewhat competitive was Cotto.

I think its impressive because of Pacquiao's limitations technically. Moving up in weight is not that easy if your bread and butter is offence and you are fighting guys who are used to being hit by bigger stronger men.

[DLT]

Here we go with the scared excuses and no respect already

[Syf]

What you are describing is Floyd cleaning out 130....and then cleaning out 147?

Is that accurate?

Yes...

I consider Floyd an ATG already, but if he wants to be, say... top 10, I think my scenario I presented would be ideal for that.

[UnDeniable]

Floyd is a better boxer than Manny IMO, regardless of styles

I've always had the belief that Manny is the greatest fighter of the decade but Floyd is the best/most talented fighter of the decade

I'm fairly confident Floyd will win this one