when exactly did all the "ducking" begin by mayweather?

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  • Cash Cow
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ekscape
    People are mad that he didnt fight Margarito instead of Baldomir... that's where it came from though you can pull up a similar situation with almost every champion
    was David Diaz the BEST 135lber? or wait.....he had the WBC title right?

    Similar to Mayweather fighting Baldomir for the WBC belt...but the difference is Baldomir beat the Undisputed champ and Diaz won an interim WBC lightweight title

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    • Ekscape
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      #22
      Originally posted by Easy Work
      was David Diaz the BEST 135lber? or wait.....he had the WBC title right?

      Similar to Mayweather fighting Baldomir for the WBC belt...but the difference is Baldomir beat the Undisputed champ and Diaz won an interim WBC lightweight title
      True... Cause me personally I and most people without a doubt would of like to see Pacquiao fight Casamayor or Campbell instead of David Diaz the weakest champ at 135 at that time... Though i'm not knocking Pac... Floyd is always always unfairly hated on

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        #23
        Originally posted by zeidrich
        1. if your a WW in 5 years and havent fought a single top 3 WW.
        2. if you faked your retirement and comeback in 2 years and fight a LW.

        3. if your using the # of lose excuse even if the opponent is ranked higher than u

        Mayweather was a WW for 5 years??? No offense but when did you start watching boxing???

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          #24
          Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
          Mayweather was a WW for 5 years??? No offense but when did you start watching boxing???
          overused question to make the one asking look like a boxing genuis........

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            #25
            Originally posted by baracuda
            overused question to make the one asking look like a boxing genuis........

            Simple question, Am far from a genius but i dont know my stuff enough not to post incorrect stuff, If the post think Mayweather has been a WW for 5 years then he needs to be told the facts. I just hope you dont believe the guy was a WW for 5 years also since you seem to jump to his defence.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Stewie Cruise
              It all went overdrive when Arum came out with the "$8 million" dollars offer, The thing is people who only started watching boxing in 2006 then jumped on the bandwagon and try to go back in history (Boxrec) then come out with names like "He didnt fight Tsyzu"...or "he should have fought spadafora" etc

              Not oh he couldnt have fought Tsyzu because Kosta was mandated to fight Hatton and before then he had to rematch Sharmba mitchell a fight that was suppose to happen for 2 years but because of Tsyzu's injuries the fight could have happen.

              The Mayweather?morales fight couldnt have happen because PBF would have need to come down in weight which he couldnt do at the time, He couldnt even come down to 128 for a huge payday with Naz and people expect him to come down for Morales???

              Morales said several times that he would go up to 130 and fight Floyd. There was no catch weight bull**** either...

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                #27
                Originally posted by Easy Work
                Top Rank NEVER presented Team Mayweather or HBO with a contract or proposal for Mayweather to fight Margarito. That 8 Million Dollar # was just thrown around over internet websites.

                Why would HBO pay for a Margarito fight (who was fighting on espn) for his WBO welterweight title he won in a vacant title bout when they can show Mayweather beat the Undisputed WW Champion for the WBC title?

                All of this stuff are Myth's, Arum knew he would NEVER get a Margarito-Mayweather fight at that time, so he used his fighters name and attached it to Mayweather's. It worked and got Margarito more attention then he would have got. But in the end Margarito was a cheater so the ducking statement is really null & void after that incident...
                Leonard Ellerbe confirmed the 8 million dollars offer by Arum.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by S.G.
                  I don't recall this. I assume you're talking about early 2001 when Floyd was tied up with Corrales and Morales had only just moved up to and won his featherweight title? The first fight with Barrera was at super bantamweight...

                  The Mayweather v Hamed fight was being lined up for after Hamed beat Barrera (which obviosuly never happened) in mid '01.
                  It wasn't just one instance. Morales called out Floyd a few times after his first Barrera fight. It was common knowledge that Morales wanted to fight Floyd, and If you followed Floyd back then, you defiantly would have heard that because a few analyst called Floyd out on it.

                  It's kinda like Celestino Cabellero with JuanMa. For over a year now, Celestino has been calling out JuanMa for a bout. In similar fashion, it was over a course of time that Morales kept wanting the fight Mayweather, and the same with Floyd wanting the fight with Hamed. Hamed vs Floyd didn't happen solely because Floyd couldn't make weight and Hamed had so many guys chasing him.


                  In all honesty, there really wasn't any justifiable excuses for not taking the fight.
                  Morales was a bigger name in boxing than Floyd
                  Morales had a huge buzz, especially since he was in FOTY with Barrera
                  Was willing to go to 130 to fight Floyd
                  Was willing to take a lesser cut of the purse

                  I mean I cant think of any reason why Floyd would not take the fight. The excuse Floyd made was that Morales was too small. Yet he was willing to go down in weight to fight Hamed, but not willing to face someone willing to come up to 130 and fight him. No hate, just calling it like I see it.
                  Last edited by Khalid X; 11-29-2009, 06:12 PM.

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                  • Mirko CROCOP
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                    #29
                    He only ducked CASAMAYOR,TSZYU,PUNISHER,WINKY,COTTO,PACQUIAO,MARG ARITO and others

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by larry x
                      he fought and beat THE MAN at ww..then went on to mega fights.....

                      thats like saying pacman aint cleaned out 135,140,or even fought a ww at the full ww limit....anybodies resume can be picked apart if you have hate in your heart
                      - right there.

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