when exactly did all the "ducking" begin by mayweather?

[Kalion]

you tell me?

It all started in the third grade at recess, Billy Mcfarnald called out floyd the previous day during Art class.He was upset with Floyd because he wouldnt share his crayons with him.So he challenged floyd for the third grade class clown title. Floyd ducked him by claiming he had a kickball game to attend. Billy called out floyd for months but Floyd continued to duck him moving on to the 4th grade while billy flunked and stayed in the 3rd.

[Khalid X]

Morales at the time was also prime and undefeated. Morales was coming off fight of the year fight. Great fight. Morales had earned respect. So you could argue that Morales was just as exciting or even maybe more exciting than Hamed.

You must be having just as much fun as I am sonning these boxrec fans.

[Khalid X]

you use the word "duck" which implies that 1 fighter is scared to fight another correct?
chavez was a typo,i had meant morrales.and so the main point of my post is that if you think morales was a bigger challenge than corrales,you need to put the pipe down.erik morales has hardly been competitive at 130.his 1 fight against a slick fighter at 130 was against raheem and it was a total schooling.so to suggest that floyd ducked him is ******.period.point blank.sosa an ndou were his last fights at 135,so the point being is how is it ducking if the fighter is facing bigger challenges?

Again......Morales was undefeated and the #2 FW at the time. Floyd was at 130 only a division above him and this was all between 2000-2001. So what the **** does Floyd's fights at 135, which were years later, have to do with this. I mean to bring the raheem fight up is just ****** because it also happened about 5-6 years after all of this went down. Floyd blatantly ducked Morales during that time, no if and's or buts about it. I was a Floyd fan back then, so there is no need for me to make **** up.

FWIW...raheem was not the first slick fighter Morales faced, that has got to be to most ignorant comment I heard on here in a long time.

[Khalid X]

FWIW I'm not a Floyd Hater. Until Pacquiao's win over Cotto, I considered Floyd's win over Corrales was the most impressive & dominating performance I have seen within the past 10 years.

[r.burgundy]

Again......Morales was undefeated and the #2 FW at the time. Floyd was at 130 only a division above him and this was all between 2000-2001. So what the **** does Floyd's fights at 135, which were years later, have to do with this. I mean to bring the raheem fight up is just ****** because it also happened about 5-6 years after all of this went down. Floyd blatantly ducked Morales during that time, no if and's or buts about it. I was a Floyd fan back then, so there is no need for me to make **** up.

FWIW...raheem was not the first slick fighter Morales faced, that has got to be to most ignorant comment I heard on here in a long time.

what are you not understanding about the term "duck"???

to say a guy who fought corrales at 130 ducked a top guy from 122 is plain ******.i talked about 135 cause he moved up in weight an fought bigger challenges at 135 than what morrales could provide.

so again are you saying somehow that morrales,who would be coming up from 122 was somehow a bigger threat than corrales at 130??

fwiw....read an comprehend my brother.i said raheem was his 1 fight against a slick fighter at 130,not his whole career.

[jrosales13]

vivian harris called out mayweather during the press
conference of the gatti/mayweather fight....
vivian went on to get KO'ed by a featherfisted
journeyman fighter named carlos maussa
harris would have been "EASY WORK"

Floyd was Harris #1 contender for his title. Floyd chose to fight Bruseles. Tell me who Bruseles is again?

Easy work for Floyd? So we win fights on paper now? Not in the ring?

[Allucard]

True... Cause me personally I and most people without a doubt would of like to see Pacquiao fight Casamayor or Campbell instead of David Diaz the weakest champ at 135 at that time... Though i'm not knocking Pac... Floyd is always always unfairly hated on

Yep. Plain to see now.

[jrosales13]

what are you not understanding about the term "duck"???

to say a guy who fought corrales at 130 ducked a top guy from 122 is plain ******.i talked about 135 cause he moved up in weight an fought bigger challenges at 135 than what morrales could provide.

so again are you saying somehow that morrales,who would be coming up from 122 was somehow a bigger threat than corrales at 130??

fwiw....read an comprehend my brother.i said raheem was his 1 fight against a slick fighter at 130,not his whole career.

But, after Corrales he had 2 more fights at 130 against Chavez and Hernandez. At the same time Morales was fighting at 126. Morales was a tougher fight than Chavez or Hernandez.

[big_james10]

with Erik Morales around 2000-2001. I remember it like it was yesterday, because it was about as blantant as you can get.

Hamed was the biggest name in the lower divisions, highest paid, and had HBO backing him. Floyd wanted to fight him at a catch weight of 128, but Hamed stated "I'm the Draw, you should come down and face me". Hamed could do that back then because he had about 5-10 different options, all of which HBO would back and also would earn him big paydays.

Since Floyd wouldn't come down, the fight never happened. Meanwhile, Erik Morales had just beaten Barrera in their first classic fight that got them FOTY honors. Morales also had a huge buzz behind him and was becoming more and more popular. He had also moved up to 126, and seeing how the Floyd vs Hamed fight fell through, Morales was like **** it, I'll go up to 130 and fight Floyd.

Not once but several times Morales tried to make the fight only for Floyd to duck him. There was no way to defend Floyd for not fighing Morales, as there weren't any justifiable excuses at the time. So to answer your question, that was the first "duck" by Floyd.

Basically Floyd was willing to go down to 128 to fight Hamed, but not willing to accept a fight from a guy who was willing to come up to his own weight class and fight him.

I don't know what you were smoking when you wrote this piece of fiction, but this is pure garbage. Floyd tried to secure a fight with Hamed at 128, but Hamed turned it down without even considering it. Hamed wanted no part of Mayweather. There was never any discussion about Morales fighting Mayweather. Morales AVOIDED a Nassem Hamed fight at 126 three times. No way he was going to move up to 130 to fight Mayweather. If Floyd was willing to fight Mosley, a guy with a 95 percent KO ratio, in 1999, what makes you think he would avoid a 122 pounder moving up? Floyd was still trying to make a name for himself at at that time and would have fought anybody. He was willing to take on Diego Corrales, a champion at 130, Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez, both of whom became champions later, in consecutive fights, but was afraid of Morales. Bull****!! If you have some proof to back up this claim, please provide it.

[Mushroom]

I don't know what you were smoking when you wrote this piece of fiction, but this is pure garbage. Floyd tried to secure a fight with Hamed at 128, but Hamed turned it down without even considering it. Hamed wanted no part of Mayweather. There was never any discussion about Morales fighting Mayweather. Morales AVOIDED a Nassem Hamed fight at 126 three times. No way he was going to move up to 130 to fight Mayweather. If Floyd was willing to fight Mosley, a guy with a 95 percent KO ratio, in 1999, what makes you think he would avoid a 122 pounder moving up? Floyd was still trying to make a name for himself at at that time and would have fought anybody. He was willing to take on Diego Corrales, a champion at 130, Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez, both of whom became champions later, in consecutive fights, but was afraid of Morales. Bull****!! If you have some proof to back up this claim, please provide it.

There's no point trying to argue. Haters will always find a reason to put a boxer down regardless of their accomplishments.