why do peole say calzaghes resume is padded and overated???its not

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  • S A M U R A I
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    #51
    Originally posted by Iceta
    So I guess that explains why Calzaghe pulled out of fights with Glen Johnson and avoided Tarver when Tarver was calling him out. I don't know the full story with the other guys I mentioned. I just know Calzaghe fought a guy in Brewer who had got beaten by Echols. Couldn't he have fought Echols instead? Or was Echols ducking him too? And the sad thing is, Calzaghe probably would've beaten all these guys, but he still never fought them.
    Listen up.

    What you accuse Calzaghe of is holding onto a strap and avoiding strong opposition, correct?

    So why are you under the impression that he is the only fighter in the business to do this?

    Think about what I said in my previous post and reconsider your argument.

    As far as I know, Echols pulled out. Some of the fights Joe had, they were late replacements, such as Pudwill. What the **** did Calzaghe have to gain by fighting people like him? Absolutey nothing! You guys act like he struggled with low-level opposition, too. Fact is, he demolished most of them easily. If he had struggled with **** fighters, you might actually have some good points, but that wasn't the case.

    He is also dissed on the regular for fighting Veit twice. Well, that was because it was a mandatory, just like Morrade Hakkar was to Bernard Hopkins. Do you really think Hopkins wanted to fight the likes of Hakkar? I don't. I'm pretty sure he wanted better names and better paydays, as most fighters do. Problem is, it doesn't work out like that all the time. This ain't a fantasy, it's a business.

    You guys are welcome to your opinions, I honestly don't care, but there are politics involved in boxing. Realize. It isn't as easy as you're making it out to be. PLENTY of fighters avoided Calzaghe because they knew he had a difficult style to beat. And the very least you could say about Calzaghe, no matter what you think of him, is that he beat 46 different styles. And styles make fights.

    I ain't saying any more about this, it's boring and been done to death. You guys are ****ing obsessed with Joe Calzaghe and it's sickening. Change the record.



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    • Iceta
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones
      It's the exact same thing as Williams telling Pavlik to get fucked. He jerked him around.

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      • Sir Tom Jones
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        #53
        "I've told my manager and promoter (Henry Foster and Goossen) to find me someone else to fight because I'm not interested in Calzaghe now."

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        • Iceta
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          #54
          Originally posted by S a m u r a i
          Listen up.

          What you accuse Calzaghe of is holding onto a strap and avoiding strong opposition, correct?

          So why are you under the impression that he is the only fighter in the business to do this?

          Think about what I said in my previous post and reconsider your argument.

          As far as I know, Echols pulled out. Some of the fights Joe had, they were late replacements, such as Pudwill. What the **** did Calzaghe have to gain by fighting people like him? Absolutey nothing! You guys act like he struggled with low-level opposition, too. Fact is, he demolished most of them easily. If he had struggled with **** fighters, you might actually have some good points, but that wasn't the case.

          He is also dissed on the regular for fighting Veit twice. Well, that was because it was a mandatory, just like Morrade Hakkar was to Bernard Hopkins. Do you really think Hopkins wanted to fight the likes of Hakkar? I don't. I'm pretty sure he wanted better names and better paydays, as most fighters do. Problem is, it doesn't work out like that all the time. This ain't a fantasy, it's a business.

          You guys are welcome to your opinions, I honestly don't care, but there are politics involved in boxing. Realize. It isn't as easy as you're making it out to be. PLENTY of fighters avoided Calzaghe because they knew he had a difficult style to beat. And the very least you could say about Calzaghe, no matter what you think of him, is that he beat 46 different styles. And styles make fights.

          I ain't saying any more about this, it's boring and been done to death. You guys are ****ing obsessed with Joe Calzaghe and it's sickening. Change the record.
          Let's just put it this way. All the time Calzaghe was ranked in the top ten P4P the other nine fighters had a way better resume than he did almost that whole time except maybe on a few occasions. Am I right or wrong about this?
          Last edited by Iceta; 11-28-2009, 08:22 PM.

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          • Zocalo
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            #55
            He should have faced Darrin Morris

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            • Iceta
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              #56
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              So how was he "avoiding" Tarver then? You just stomped on your own point. Ooops.
              I think that Tarver would've gotten handled by Joe. But all these fighters are missing from his resume and fights are only won on paper.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #57
                Originally posted by Iceta
                I think that Tarver would've gotten handled by Joe. But all these fighters are missing from his resume and fights are only won on paper.
                So he didnt avoid Tarver then.

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                • BEEHOP
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Mirko CROCOP
                  CALZAGHE is ATG.

                  FLOYD MAYWEATHERS record is padded.
                  Floyd is far better than Calzaghe.

                  Floyd is ranked much higher for a reason.

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                  • Iceta
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    So he didnt avoid Tarver then.
                    Yeah, he did. Tarver called him out and Calzaghe fought Manfredo instead.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Iceta
                      Yeah, he did. Tarver called him out and Calzaghe fought Manfredo instead.
                      As you stated, Calzaghe called Tarver out after the Lacy fight. I guess it only counts when Tarver does it though

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