why do peole say calzaghes resume is padded and overated???its not

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  • boxasmash
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    #61
    Originally posted by Iceta
    Yeah, he did. Tarver called him out and Calzaghe fought Manfredo instead.
    What the hell are you talking about? Calzaghe called Tarver out after Lacy fight and Tarver fought and lost to Johnson instead.

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    • ShatteredGlass
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      #62
      The way I see it is that until Joe fought Lacy, he wasn't considered a star or an elite fighter, but just a European titleholder. Had he wanted to fight Jones say, he would have had to take like 10% of the purse to Jone's 90%, thats not worth it to be disrespected.

      After beating Lacy, he was in a position to fight the best, and he pretty much did that

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      • Zocalo
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        #63
        Originally posted by SirAuron
        The way I see it is that until Joe fought Lacy, he wasn't considered a star or an elite fighter, but just a European titleholder. Had he wanted to fight Jones say, he would have had to take like 10% of the purse to Jone's 90%, thats not worth it to be disrespected.

        After beating Lacy, he was in a position to fight the best, and he pretty much did that
        The fact that it took until the Lacy fight for him to be considered a star says alot about his resume.

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        • ShatteredGlass
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          #64
          Originally posted by Zocalo
          The fact that it took until the Lacy fight for him to be considered a star says alot about his resume.
          Yeah, but who else was he supposed to fight?

          Jones, Hopkins and Toney all would never leave America, and all were considered big stars thanks to their wins over american tomato cans.

          It's hard to break into a group like that.

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            #65
            Originally posted by SirAuron
            Yeah, but who else was he supposed to fight?

            Jones, Hopkins and Toney all would never leave America, and all were considered big stars thanks to their wins over american tomato cans.

            It's hard to break into a group like that.
            Darrin Morris ... it was a disgrace that he kept the WBO belt when it stood for nothing.

            Hell... go face the other SW at the time Ottke...

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            • Dirk Diggler UK
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              #66
              Originally posted by boxasmash
              What the hell are you talking about? Calzaghe called Tarver out after Lacy fight and Tarver fought and lost to Johnson instead.
              I dont even remember Tarver mentioning Calzaghe.

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              • ShatteredGlass
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                #67
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                I dont even remember Tarver mentioning Calzaghe.
                I said a couple of years ago that Calzaghe should fight Tarver, the suggestion was scoffed at and then Dawson fought Tarver instead, but that was ok

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                • Iceta
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                  But even without Tarver, couldn't Calzaghe have fought another fighter considered at the top of their game? I'm tired of talking about this, because the points in my posts get ignored and the fan boys talk out of their ass. If Joe wants to retire on the paper thin record he's got, that's his right.

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                  • BEEHOP
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                    #69
                    His best wins are over guys who are the same age as Tyson and Holyfield!

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                    • Iceta
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      As you stated, Calzaghe called Tarver out after the Lacy fight. I guess it only counts when Tarver does it though
                      Actually he fought Sakio Bika instead of Tarver and not Manfredo. Hopkins already took the bull by the horns by the time that Joe fought another contender. Two contenders in a row. That is why this guy's career is a big question mark.

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