Pacquiao a Tough Fight For Mayweather, Says Wright

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Carlisle, you are a serious hater dude...Who in the hell did Manny beat to prove his greatness?

A lot of very good fighters. Why bother listing them anyway? We all know his resume. But look at how he beat them, not only the fact that he beat them. Most got the beating of their lives. Look at their faces. Cotto's was barely recognizable the following day. Honestly, if he passed me in the street looking like that I wouldn't be saying "hey, there goes Miguel Cotto!" I'd say "damn, who attacked this guy with a baseball bat, the poor ****er?"



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[znarfv_y2k8]

Absolutely right!!!

What makes you guys think FLOYD is on another level? Who's the one C level opponent he beat to support your claim? The truth is, we don't know how GREAT FLOYD REALLY IS? Do we? He's a really GOOD fighter but the WHITAKERS, RAY LEONARDS, ALI'S, he's not. He's never been knocked down, cut, defeated, because he hasn't been fighting the best like he claims. He's in denial about the level of opposition he's faced his whole career. Had he been fighting A level fighters, he wouldn't be undefeated and that's a fact. He may beat MANNY, he may not but he has a very small window to win over us REAL boxing fans by facing all the top welter's we don't think he would beat. RIGHT OR WRONG?

Absolutely right!!! Floyd doesn't yet belong w/ those greats & still has a lot to prove...He's a self proclaimed best & followed by w/ his low level IQ fans...He has that zero record w/ B level opponents so that he may look impressive & claim that his great...

What about the Castillo vs Mayweather I, it's a robbery...What about Moseley calling him out on his face after the Marquez bout? A Cotto vs Floyd in 2008 was unavoidable that they will cross their path, what happened he retires...

[philb]

Cotto's jab is stronger than PBF's left hook and straight right!!! LOL

Yea well it would help if he was more accurate with it and also knew how to block punches as good as he dishes em out....cotto still showed he is not a complete fighter, maybe offensively but not defense...that layin up on the ropes with his paws up gettin smacked around while u bleedin worse than a girl on her period......he will never elevate to A+ status, i just call it like i see it, so don't get mad at me my PR peeps, i like the guy but he showed no D against pac especially later rounds.....and i was routing for the cotto too yellin at him to put his hands up.....he needs a new corner too...time to step up to the big leagues,....the roache's and the nacho's...can't hook up ur family forever dawg if u wanna get places!

[S A M U R A I]

Yeah and morales beat him down the first fight

115-113 on all cards. Hardly a beat down.

what kills me is that i don't get why he is crushing all these welterweights when he kinda struggeled w/ featherweight top guys, lost the first to morales and had a big knot on his forhead like vargas in my sig after he got suga shaned up aahahaha. And then two debatable wins to marquez...but then he gets to welterweight and is destroyin dudes, kinda ass backwards if u ask me....

Pacquiao + cutting weight = nowhere near the same fighter. Look at him now. Fighting near his natural weight. Big difference.

in any case, i would say floyd has better resume.....go look at pac's record on box rec before the first barrera fight....when floyd was gettin his title from an old vet like genero.....pac was gettin ko'd by pinoys and thai dudes w/ names longer than u can pronounce....check it son!!

Check the facts. Losing his flyweight title on the scales and then moving up 3 weight divisions for his next fight. What does that tell you?

Getting KO'd by nobodies, then beating the hell out of excellent, proven fighters. What does that tell you?

What it tells me is that he wasn't fighting at his ideal weight when he lost those fights. He's been in with some very good body punchers since too, yet he was KO'd by a nobody via a body shot? Come on man. If you take the blinkers off you'll see it.

Even the last Marquez fight, he was struggling badly to make 130. In fact in his last three fights at 130 he was having difficulty.

It's simple. Pacquiao is much better when he doesn't cut so much weight.



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[S A M U R A I]

Yea well it would help if he was more accurate with it and also knew how to block punches as good as he dishes em out....cotto still showed he is not a complete fighter, maybe offensively but not defense...that layin up on the ropes with his paws up gettin smacked around while u bleedin worse than a girl on her period......he will never elevate to A+ status, i just call it like i see it, so don't get mad at me my PR peeps, i like the guy but he showed no D against pac especially later rounds.....and i was routing for the cotto too yellin at him to put his hands up.....he needs a new corner too...time to step up to the big leagues,....the roache's and the nacho's...can't hook up ur family forever dawg if u wanna get places!

Man, you're just in denial. Manny was simply too fast for him. How the hell can he defend from punches he can't even see?



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[w2nhbky2j]

Yeah and morales beat him down the first fight, hehe, what kills me is that i don't get why he is crushing all these welterweights when he kinda struggeled w/ featherweight top guys, lost the first to morales and had a big knot on his forhead like vargas in my sig after he got suga shaned up aahahaha. And then two debatable wins to marquez...but then he gets to welterweight and is destroyin dudes, kinda ass backwards if u ask me....in any case, i would say floyd has better resume.....go look at pac's record on box rec before the first barrera fight....when floyd was gettin his title from an old vet like genero.....pac was gettin ko'd by pinoys and thai dudes w/ names longer than u can pronounce....check it son!!

1st morales fight, pac's right hand was only for a double jab then he throws a straight left, he lost. 2nd morales fight, pac ktfo morales and shows some right hooks for the first time. 3rd fight, morales was washed up and got ktfo sooner. 1st fight with marquez, it was rightfully a draw. 2nd fight with marquez, marquez won that. Heres a story of pac's career. He improved and improved then after the 3rd morales fight, his skills diminished. I mean who is Jorge solis? Pac didnt beat barrera the 2nd time when barrera was already washed up. In the marquez fight, i never saw pacquiao use a right hand. Then his skills went improving again starting at the david diaz fight. Pacquiao changed his style in that fight and it was the first time I saw him like that. He used his footwork. Then his punching power and right hand improved dramatically. You shouldnt be only surprised with his punching power improving so much, but you should also be surprised by how much he has improved in over a year.

Now to PBF. I respect PBF 140 lbs below. At 147, well thats where his ducking the threats started.

[S A M U R A I]

1st morales fight, pac's right hand was only for a double jab then he throws a straight left, he lost. 2nd morales fight, pac ktfo morales and shows some right hooks for the first time. 3rd fight, morales was washed up and got ktfo sooner. 1st fight with marquez, it was rightfully a draw. 2nd fight with marquez, marquez won that. Heres a story of pac's career. He improved and improved then after the 3rd morales fight, his skills diminished. I mean who is Jorge solis? Pac didnt beat barrera the 2nd time when barrera was already washed up. In the marquez fight, i never saw pacquiao use a right hand. Then his skills went improving again starting at the david diaz fight. Pacquiao changed his style in that fight and it was the first time I saw him like that. He used his footwork. Then his punching power and right hand improved dramatically. You shouldnt be only surprised with his punching power improving so much, but you should also be surprised by how much he has improved in over a year.

Now to PBF. I respect PBF 140 lbs below. At 147, well thats where his ducking the threats started.

WTF? He didn't beat Barrera in the second fight? Did I read this right?



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[w2nhbky2j]

Im meant that he didn't beat barrera the way people expected him to. Don't tell me that he was showing barrera some mercy either. Pac has a better resume than pbf! PERIOD

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Im meant that he didn't beat barrera the way people expected him to. Don't tell me that he was showing barrera some mercy either. Pac has a better resume than pbf! PERIOD

Yes, of course he has a better resume than Floyd, I think everyone would agree, but I question the idea that he didn't show him mercy in the second fight. I hear that Marco and Manny are friends, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did ease off a little. I think he showed mercy to Cotto, too.



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[donray]

WTF? He didn't beat Barrera in the second fight? Did I read this right?

If manny can solve the defensive puzzle of mayweather he wins, offensively it is obvious he is better, he is just as fast, and punches a lot harder, he and roach need to focus on how to get through the defense the foot movement primarily, floyd does not move his head as much as say whitaker, his defense is centered around his foot movement and the shoulder role solve those two things which can be solved, and mayweather is very beatable after all he is just a very good fighter not an all time great anyway.