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  • #91
    Originally posted by SugarRayRealist View Post
    Carlisle, you are a serious hater dude...Who in the hell did Manny beat to prove his greatness? Tell me that. Manny Pacquiao fought an old, weight-drained Oscar DeLaHoya. Floyd Mayweather fought DeLaHoya at 154lbs. Manny Pacquiao fought a Ricky Hatton that was already knocked out and plus he fought with his chin in the air. Floyd Mayweather fought an undefeated and Confident Ricky Hatton and knocked him out. Manny Pacquiao fought a Miguel Cotto was knocked out by Antonio Margarito; plus he was slow and unsure of himself which equals=No Confidence. Floyd Mayweather fought an undefeated Diego Corrales who was also a champion.

    Manny Pacquiao moved up in weight and fought a very limited David Diaz and it still took him almost 12 rounds to knock him out. Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight and took on the best the division had to offer him; and won a decision over Jose Luis Castillo and gave him an immediate rematch and beat the brakes off of him. Manny Pacquiao knocked down Marquez 3 times in the first round, and still had a draw. Now that is really pathetic. He lost both fights against Marquez and would not fight him a third time.

    So it seems to me that Manny is the real fraud. He ask for catchweight fights so his opponents come in drained and you want to say (wow, this guy is ****ing awesome) I would say: wow, this gay guy wants all of the advantages because he or his team doesn't have confidence in his ability. Enough with this BS catchweights; it's taking away from the opponents of Manny and he is not as good as you think he is, otherwise he would have gave Marquez a third fight after 2 tough fights. He would not ask for catchweight fights against and old DeLaHoya or an underconfidence Cotto. Enough with the hero attitude on Manny, he is more like a zero. Heros don't ask for this many advantages.
    Wow! I am amazed you know how to summerized the qualities of those great boxers when Pac defeated them, but did you tell anyrthing those qualities during prefights to Pac, huh??? Did you tell Diaz have limited talent or skill and no way to win against Pac? show me the trend! Did you tell too that ODLH was overdrained in pre-fight, huh? or did you tell also that Hatton and Cotto would not win against Pac because they were just overhypes and slow puncher before the fight, huh? show me the trend!

    And you can not just say JMM won both of their fights. The first fight was a clear robbery, because one of the judges admitted he made an error of not deducting a point from JMM because of his KD's, that if so, then Pac was the clear winner, did you know this, huh? And the second fight, as many said, it would go either way, do you understand what mean by this, huh? It appears that many disagreed the decision by granting Pac as the winner by SD! Of course, when you are JMM huthugger, you will reacted and publicize your disappointment. But granting that JMM had won by SD, do you think no one would air also their disappointment in media, huh? or much more you can hear agaisnt that decision after JMM was KD, which means 2 points deduction from JMM in 1 single round, and won??? Unbelievable, right, but as what I had said it would nonetheless go either way, that means, if JMM was the declared winner, then I have no objection too.

    And you are ignorant not to know what is the purpose of catchweight! Pac as everybody knows came from as light as Flyweight! Before he fought ODLH he was actually in Lightweight or 135lbs! To make the fight happen or possible, ODLH who was at JMW met Pac midway at 144lbs catchweight, meaning, if ODLH would dehydrate to 144lbs, Pac would also rehydrate to 144lbs, and FYI, rehydration and dehydration are both disadvantageous to fighter who did it, but since both of them agreed to make it, then there is no excuses if one camp mishandled his body building transformation, besides they have both professional dieticians and conditioning staff. This was also used in Pac-Cotto to marginalized both of their weaknesses. Because Cotto will most likely lose to pac at 140lbs to where pac has dominated, and Pac would also likely to lose to Cotto in full 147lbs, beside if there was much of the disadvantageous to both fighters, then it was Pac, because at 145lbs was not much problem to Cotto because he just going down 1 lb from his ideal scaling weight of 146lbs when he fought Clottey for WW match, unlike Pac who will going up 5lbs to make his weight nontheless effective in WW. That's how explain the importance of catchweight!

    But the truth, ODLH was not over-drained during his wardrobe warm up when it showed in the video, hence he was healthy and over confident! When he was badly beatin' by Pac it was only then he looks old, over-drained and washed up! Few realizes or only those who have that impartial views noticed that this was and always been the effect of Pac stings to his victims!

    But I am sure, when Pac beat Floyd Jr, you will have again summary to tell how Floyd was beatin' to give excuse to PBF defeat and at the same time, discredited Pac wins. No wonder for Pac Hater like you!

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    • #92
      If manny can solve the defensive puzzle of mayweather he wins, offensively it is obvious he is better, he is just as fast, and punches a lot harder, he and roach need to focus on how to get through the defense the foot movement primarily, floyd does not move his head as much as say whitaker, his defense is centered around his foot movement and the shoulder role solve those two things which can be solved, and mayweather is very beatable after all he is just a very good fighter not an all time great anyway.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
        Man, you're just in denial. Manny was simply too fast for him. How the hell can he defend from punches he can't even see?
        Manny is the perfect example of what the right trainer can do for a naturally gifted fighter....before roach, in his flyweight days he had nowhere near the polish he has now, so i'd give alot of credit to roach where pac is at this moment lets be honest here fellas lol. All i'm sayin is cotto with the right professional trainer can do it...look at what ****m richardson did for mosley recently....and u guys still believe trainers are just for window dressing? Shiieeet...trust me i wish i could say mosley beat marg just on his own (as a big fan) but nah, ****m had alot to do w/ that and i think cotto could benefit, i'm not takin anythin way from pac's win he was the better man, but lets not just be simple blind fans of one fighter vs another....i find that u can always identify a boxers weakness, any of em, and yes pac does have alot of em, but the more he destroys these welters the more his name will scare fighters into submission before they get into the ring, i just wanna see the best fight the best...true story!

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        • #94
          can't bet against pacman... but then again its hard not to bet against someone that is undefeated w/ great technical skills... so this is y I'm not a betting man for this fight.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
            Yes, of course he has a better resume than Floyd, I think everyone would agree, but I question the idea that he didn't show him mercy in the second fight. I hear that Marco and Manny are friends, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did ease off a little. I think he showed mercy to Cotto, too.
            Nah, I really believe his skills diminished after the 3rd morales fight. His strong right hook was missing, the one that stunned morales leading to the KO. He was too busy with his rockstar life at that time and freddie roach was spending some time with ODLH with his fight with PBF during the time that pacquiao had to fight solis. Then pacquiao trained in the philippines for the 2nd barrera fight. He only went improving back again in the david diaz fight and went improving ever so dramatically in just over a year after that.

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            • #96
              Manny Pacquiao moved up in weight and fought a very limited David Diaz and it still took him almost 12 rounds to knock him out.
              Since when did a 9 round ass whipping become almost 12 rounds?

              And how good is David Diaz' chin? I think it's pretty damn good. Not every opponent is gonna fall over so easily.

              I mean, people say "well, he can't be that great, it took him ___ amount of rounds to dispose of _____", which is really dumb. You can be a totally limited, skill-less brawler and last the distance. You don't need talent to be able to take a punch. I give props to Diaz, he's pretty tough and he put up a better fight than a lot of Manny's opponents considering his level of talent, which is nowhere near as bad as some make it out to be.

              Talk about clutching at straws.



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              • #97
                Originally posted by RisAri0 View Post
                can't bet against pacman... but then again its hard not to bet against someone that is undefeated w/ great technical skills... so this is y I'm not a betting man for this fight.
                I don't blame you. I'm in two minds whether to bet or not. I might just sit back and enjoy this one without betting.



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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
                  To make the fight happen or possible, ODLH who was at JMW met Pac midway at 144lbs catchweight, meaning, if ODLH would dehydrate to 144lbs, Pac would also rehydrate to 144lbs

                  The Oscar fight was at 147. That was the weight Oscar demanded so as not to make it appear to be a mis-match. Manny came in at 142.

                  The Cotto fight was the first catchweight Many has ever had. That's why it was so annoying when people started calling him "Catchweight Manny"! He hadn't even had a catchweight fight until a couple of days ago!



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                  • #99
                    If he destroys floyd, then I want him to whoop my boy shane mosley next, then i will be a true believer....i'll be an honarary filipino black dude and call myself Nonito, LOL

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                    • Originally posted by philb View Post
                      If he destroys floyd, then I want him to whoop my boy shane mosley next, then i will be a true believer
                      If your not a believer by now, then your one blind brothah. Owah and it's only a matter of two weeks before Vitali Klitschko knocks out Kevin Johnson, Hehe, hehe !!!!!

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