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  • Originally posted by baracuda View Post
    cotto's offense ****s on floyd's ....defense dont score points...
    hmmmm...... OK, so how come Cotto offense didn't help him against Manny
    and his offense? And how come Floyd consistently outlands mostly all of
    his opponents by double digits? Defense don't score points? But Defense
    and counter punching does and DEFENSE keeps you from getting Diaz,
    Oscar, Hatton and Cotto'd, who all thought size and power was the key.

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    • Originally posted by SceneSpectator! View Post
      You're a one-eye blind! Don't tell **** about Floyd beating a blown up JMM and that Pac had a hard time disposing JMM??? You're ******!

      First of all, you see how Pac wanted to get fast from Featherweight to Junior welter? Because he felt featherweight was no longer his appropriate weight that might most likely explain why he had difficulty dealing with JMM!
      But granting your analogy is correct that if Pac could not easily disposed JMM, and Floyd easily beat JMM in one sided fashion, Floyd would therefore better than Pac and will beat Pac. How about this, if Floyd took him 10 rounds to KO Hatton and hardly disposed ODLH in the whole 12 rounds, and Pac disposed easily Hatton in just 2 rounds while wins in a more brutal one sided beatings to ODLH, does it mean that Pac is better than Floyd based in your one-sided analogy, huh???

      Who is better then in your contracictory analogy, huh??? :****you:
      Co-sign! nice post bro!

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      • We all know that JMM was a different fighter when he fought Pac
        compared to Floyd BUT we also know that Oscar and Ricky Hatton
        were different fighters when Floyd fought them compared to when
        they fought Pacquiao. To deny these facts is bias from both fighters
        fans. Pacquiao and Floyd are both in their primes and looking spectacular
        in the ring so when this fight is all said and done there should be no excuses
        from ANYONE.

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          hmmmm...... OK, so how come Cotto offense didn't help him against Manny
          and his offense? And how come Floyd consistently outlands mostly all of
          his opponents by double digits? Defense don't score points? But Defense
          and counter punching does and DEFENSE keeps you from getting Diaz,
          Oscar, Hatton and Cotto'd, who all thought size and power was the key.
          I don't think Cotto's defense was not that good, the problem is, How can you avoid punches w/c you can't see coming? Punches from different angles and it coming to you in a split second ranging from 3 to 5 or even 8 punches successively.
          Last edited by pugay_kamay; 11-28-2009, 08:18 AM.

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          • Originally posted by SugarRayRealist View Post
            Carlisle, you are a serious hater dude...Who in the hell did Manny beat to prove his greatness? Tell me that. Manny Pacquiao fought an old, weight-drained Oscar DeLaHoya. Floyd Mayweather fought DeLaHoya at 154lbs. Manny Pacquiao fought a Ricky Hatton that was already knocked out and plus he fought with his chin in the air. Floyd Mayweather fought an undefeated and Confident Ricky Hatton and knocked him out. Manny Pacquiao fought a Miguel Cotto was knocked out by Antonio Margarito; plus he was slow and unsure of himself which equals=No Confidence. Floyd Mayweather fought an undefeated Diego Corrales who was also a champion.

            Manny Pacquiao moved up in weight and fought a very limited David Diaz and it still took him almost 12 rounds to knock him out. Floyd Mayweather moved up in weight and took on the best the division had to offer him; and won a decision over Jose Luis Castillo and gave him an immediate rematch and beat the brakes off of him. Manny Pacquiao knocked down Marquez 3 times in the first round, and still had a draw. Now that is really pathetic. He lost both fights against Marquez and would not fight him a third time.

            So it seems to me that Manny is the real fraud. He ask for catchweight fights so his opponents come in drained and you want to say (wow, this guy is ****ing awesome) I would say: wow, this gay guy wants all of the advantages because he or his team doesn't have confidence in his ability. Enough with this BS catchweights; it's taking away from the opponents of Manny and he is not as good as you think he is, otherwise he would have gave Marquez a third fight after 2 tough fights. He would not ask for catchweight fights against and old DeLaHoya or an underconfidence Cotto. Enough with the hero attitude on Manny, he is more like a zero. Heros don't ask for this many advantages.

            you are ******, gayweather agreed with marquez for 144 lbs, and came to fight at 147 +. What can be more fraud than that.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              We all know that JMM was a different fighter when he fought Pac
              compared to Floyd BUT we also know that Oscar and Ricky Hatton
              were different fighters when Floyd fought them compared to when
              they fought Pacquiao. To deny these facts is bias from both fighters
              fans. Pacquiao and Floyd are both in their primes and looking spectacular
              in the ring so when this fight is all said and done there should be no excuses
              from ANYONE.
              Yeah, Hatton move-up from JWW to WW, Oscar was already shot when he fought Floyd.

              While Pac fought hatton on his real weight class w/c is JWW, Pac fought ODLH @ 147 but Osca called him out, he was at @ 135 then. So, it's really insane for Pac to move-up @ 154 just to fight Oscar. Moreover, it was all Oscars decision that was followed except for the catchweight of 147 w/c is reasonable.

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              • Originally posted by pugay_kamay View Post
                I don't think Cotto's defense was not that good, the problem is, How can you avoid punches w/c can't see coming? Punches from different angles and it coming to you in a split second ranging from 3 to 5 or even 8 punches successively.
                Lets keep it 100% real here. WE ALL know that Miguel Cotto has always
                been subject to every punch in the book and gets hit with big shots even
                through his defense. The only thing Cotto had was offense against Pac
                and once he couldn't pull it off he lost. What Floyd is going to have to do
                with Pac is be a lil more careful by balancing his defense and offense because
                he can't really wait in a defensive stance and let Pac wail away on him.
                I think counter punching is going to play a big role and which fighter can
                make the other fight his fight.

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                • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  But Manny had a draw in his toughest fight "Juan Manuel Marquez" and
                  in the rematch has a questionable win against the same fighter. At least
                  Floyd gave Castillo a rematch and beat him soundly. No one ever talks
                  about that while Pac hasn't covincingly showed that he could beat JMM.
                  Pacquiao fought two of the same fighters Floyd fought? AND your saying
                  Floyd carefully picks opponents? Roach said Oscar was a winnable fight
                  once he said he knew Oscar couldn't pull the trigger and made the fight
                  at a weight Oscar couldn't handle anymore and your talking about Floyd
                  carefully picked? Listen man, the Boxing business is what it is a business
                  and if you say Floyd picked safe fights well so did Pac.

                  I don't think, Pac fighting Barrera, Morales, JMM, Diaz, Hatton, Oscar & Cotto is SAFE. The fact that he was moving up in weight w/c is for Pac is a disadvantage coz he is new at the weight class. There's always a question of CAN HE HANDLE the guys on the higher weight class? W/c in the end he did.

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                  • Originally posted by pugay_kamay View Post
                    Yeah, Hatton move-up from JWW to WW, Oscar was already shot when he fought Floyd.

                    While Pac fought hatton on his real weight class w/c is JWW, Pac fought ODLH @ 147 but Osca called him out, he was at @ 135 then. So, it's really insane for Pac to move-up @ 154 just to fight Oscar. Moreover, it was all Oscars decision that was followed except for the catchweight of 147 w/c is reasonable.
                    Well...... While you have a point there are so many other things that went
                    down but that's in the past. All we need to know now is that Pac and Floyd
                    are at their best and there should be NO EXCUSES FROM ANYONE.

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                    • Originally posted by pugay_kamay View Post
                      I don't think, Pac fighting Barrera, Morales, JMM, Diaz, Hatton, Oscar & Cotto is SAFE. The fact that he was moving up in weight w/c is for Pac is a disadvantage coz he is new at the weight class. There's always a question of CAN HE HANDLE the guys on the higher weight class? W/c in the end he did.
                      Pac definitely impressed and made a believer out of me in regards
                      to being able to handle moving up because I didn't think he could
                      do to his strictly offensive style but he did it right. I noticed that
                      many on here keep forgetting that Floyd started his career at 130
                      and fought some good fighters until he got established and began
                      making big money but even then the majority of his fights were
                      championship fights. Praise Pac and down Floyd all you want but
                      Floyd was on another level several years ago and had the sport in
                      aw by his Boxing skill.

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