Team Mayweather Response: Pacquiao is Not a Bigger Star

[urduja2k5]

People flock to see Gayweather fight not because he is a good boxer, they want to see him beaten to a pulp and laugh on his face, so far people are frustrated, but the time has come and Pac will have the previlage.

[tengbits]

Pacman-ChickenFeatherJr. encounter ain't gonna happen!

[edgarg]

If I were Bob Arum, I would by-pass Pacquiao/Mayweather fight. The reason for this are the following: Mayweather is a PPV fake attraction. Reason: Most of his fight, his opponents were the big attraction, not him. Most boxing fans wants to watch him lose, and not win. He is a certified coward and a cheater, who ducked Mosley, Margarito, Paul Williams, fighters of his own size. Whenever he fights, it is boring. It is like watching a bicycle marathon. And he does not give a damn, what the boxing fans think about him as long as he wins the fight.Boxing history will never acknowledge his record in the ring as a great fighter. Another thing that the Pacquiao team should never take this fight is this: Floyd is making a lot of noise to bag this fight, to earn big money to resolve his financial problems ( he is bankrupt ). Bob Arum and team Pacquiao can still earn big money fights against Mosley, Marquez, and even Yuri Foreman. Boxing fans want to watch Pacquiao fights, regardless of his opponents. Last message to the boxing world: **** Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My own opinion is that the Roach is talking through the top of his head as usual. We all know that he has no kind of authority to discuss any kind of deals. He likes to think of hmself as a super-genius, a sort of Svengali [with glasses] who has made a Trilby from a Manny, all because through incredible luck, he managed to get a very talented fighter who can listen and improve.

I know that the Roach gives the impression that he's "'round-the-bend" but very likely could be acting according to instructions, to get public opinion all stirred up, by scattering "self made" comments, to see what the public reactions are, and begin the task of attracting the casual ticket/PPV buyers. It's all "business as usual" in the boxing world.

Manny P is a far bigger attraction than Mayweather, because the whole world knows that a Manny P fight is going to contain fighting as advertised, a fighter who'll give his best to the last ounce of strength he has. A Mayweather fight is going to be like a standing glass of guinness, all froth at the top, [during the fight build-up] and all flat from then on [during the fight itself].

A fight between them would be Manny hunting Mayweather, and Mayweather evading pursuit.

I'm not even half sure that it's a good match for the boxing spectator.

Nearly all of Mayweather's fights have been straight-out disappointments, with the fans grumbling that they didn't get their money's worth. And in a Mayweather fight, a fan very seldom would.

If they were both fighting credible opponents on the same night, in side-by-side arenas, I believe that Mayweather's arena would be half empty, and there'd be "standing-room-only" at Manny's.

Only in 2 Mayweather fights that I can think of, did the spectator get his money's worth, and that was because of his opponent, not him.

They were his fights with Emmanuel Augustus, and the first Castillo fight, which many believe Castillo won.

[big_james10]

exactly. if it was the truth, there wouldnt even be any controversy or negotiation.

Arum and Roach have continuously said that Pacquaio is the biggest star. Your comment makes no sense.

[big_james10]

Mayweather doesn't even deserve a bigger split than Pacquiao because Pacquiao is the most popular Asian fighter there is. He has influence over people not just in the Phillipines. But countries like Sinagore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. And not to mention that the crime rate in the Phillipines goes down. Mayweather and his team don't even take these kind of things into consideration when they talk out of their ass. They should stand firm on this and not budge because all of Floyd's big name opponents got a bigger cut of the money than he did.

And I find it funny when Ellerbe points out the fact that Cotto is a bigger PPV draw than JMM. Well, if so, then why the hell did Floyd duck him and go into retirement? I mean, I'm not saying Cotto did anything to help the fight happen either. But it's still the fact that it always seemed like Floyd didn't want anything to do with Cotto when Cotto was more at the top of his game. .

I love this post. It is so full of fallacies and distortions and plain ridiculous comments, it is the most interesting thing I have read all day. 1. Pacquaio is the most popular Asian fighter? He has more influence in Singaport, Malaysia and Indonesia? How many of those 1.2 million PPV that were purchased in the ODLH and Cotto fight came from Asian countries? The answer is NONE, so his influence in Asian countries makes no difference.

2. All of Floyd's big name opponents got a bigger cut of the money than he did? In all of Mayweather's fights, the only time an opponent got a bigger cut was the ODLH fight.

3. Floyd didn't want anything to do with Cotto when Cotto was at the top of his game? Mayweather tried for two years to get a fight with Cotto at 140 when they were both promoted by Arum. Arum and Cotto's management said "no way." I guess Cotto wasn't at the top of his game when he was at 140. I guess Mayweather was trying to take him out early because he knew Cotto would move up to 147 and would eventually be at the top of his game. Right?

[!! Shawn]

Actually, Juan Manuel Marquez vs Joel Casamayor was a Golden Boy PPV, not an HBO PPV. Citing numbers for an independent PPV are ******, considering the limited advertisement for the card.

[Equilibrium]

Of course Ellerbe is going to say that.



In his eyes Floyd is the only star.

[big_james10]

Only in 2 Mayweather fights that I can think of, did the spectator get his money's worth, and that was because of his opponent, not him. They were his fights with Emmanuel Augustus, and the first Castillo fight, which many believe Castillo won.

Okay. If this were true, why did 2.2 million people pay to see ODLH fight Mayweather (when they had been sooooo disappointed in all but two of his previous fights) and only 1.2 million pay to see Oscar fight Pacquaio? Oscar's previous high was 1.4 million, 800,000 less than the Mayweather fight. Yet, two fights later, 1 million fewer people wanted to see him fight Pacquaio.

Also, why would 1 million pay to see Mayweather fight Marquez? We all know that Marquez has never been a draw on PPV. Did he suddenly become a PPV sensation after knocking out an over-the-hill Joel Casamayor? The truth is nothing in your post carries any credibility.

[big_james10]

Actually, Juan Manuel Marquez vs Joel Casamayor was a Golden Boy PPV, not an HBO PPV. Citing numbers for an independent PPV are ******, considering the limited advertisement for the card.

That fight was not on PPV. It was on regular HBO.

[big_james10]

So why fight marquez in the first place? why front & say marquez has a whole country behind him?


Pac camp has come out & said 50-50 will do the fight. Ball is in the fraudulent one's court.

Yes, but prior to the numbers for the Cotto fight coming out, Pac's people were saying he wanted 60 percent. The only reason they would change their tune is because they know that Pac is not a big of a star as they thought and the numbers prove it.