Ross Greenburg: "until Pacquiao beats Mayweather, his legacy is not complete". AGREE?

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  • Pullcounter
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    #111
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    You say we very easy , you would be suprised how many of your we would say *** you fight Floyd or you avoided him , retire and legacy sealed on Cotto lol , Floyd has said he wants to fight Manny , ball is in Manny court .
    floyd is all talk... 50/50 and its on.

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    • hugh grant
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      #112
      Originally posted by cortdawg25
      that is dumbest thing i've heard. His wins over Hernandez and Corrales trumps Hatton!


      Pacman cannot not fight Floyd and take claim as the best of his era. he only been hot a couple yrs and that is from floyd leftovers.
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      Pac showed PBF how he should have dealt with his opponents. JMM was Pacs leftover. PBF should have knocked JMM out because he stepped up 2 weights and his chin was gone from being knocked by pac so many times.

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      • AC111
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        #113
        Originally posted by Bernie Madoff
        That said, should Pacquiao and Mayweather never square off, their legacies will not be complete, Greenburg said.

        “Pacquiao’s place in history is rising on a daily basis,” he said. “But he can only complete it by taking that next step. And it’s an obvious next step. Until he beats Floyd Mayweather, his legacy’s not cemented. And the same goes for Floyd, against Pacquiao.”


        I know that this forum will agree that Floyd's legacy is incomplete. This website seems very anti-Mayweather. I was interested to know if you agree that people would say "what if..." or "but he didn't face Mayweather..." in the future as they talk about Pacquiao.

        100 PERCENT disagree. He can retire today and his legacy is greatness.

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        • MANGLER
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          #114
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          140? How does that work? He fought Hatton who was coming off a loss to Floyd and a win against Paulie. How was Hatton linear? The only belt he has was the IBO belt....

          At 126 the only belt Pac had was the IBF, which he won from Lucero...he drew with Marquez and Barrera didnt even have a belt.
          At 112, he beat Chatchai Sasakul, for the WBC.
          3 of the 4 you suggested were not linear welterweight titles.
          Being considered the best at a given weight and winning the lineal title are different things.
          Hatton was comin off wins on Paulie and Lazscano, not a loss.

          Hatton was linear cuz he beat KT for the lineal JWW title and never lost at JWW til he lost to Pac.

          Pac beat MAB for the lineal title at 126.

          Sasakul was the lineal champ at 112. Ring simply wasn't doin their belts at that particular time.

          Pac has won 4 lineal titles homey. And no, bein the lineal champ in itself don't necessarily make you the best fighter in the division. I'm just givin cred where it's due. When he was there, I think Pac coulda beat everybody at 140, 130, and 126. I only seen like 2 of his 112 fights so I dunno bout that. I ain't sayin he was the best at those weights. I'm sayin he gets props for what he did.

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          • RodBarker
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            #115
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            floyd is all talk... 50/50 and its on.
            I agree it will be on , who cares what the numbers end up .

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              #116
              Originally posted by Easy-E
              140? How does that work? He fought Hatton who was coming off a loss to Floyd and a win against Paulie. How was Hatton linear? The only belt he has was the IBO belt....

              At 126 the only belt Pac had was the IBF, which he won from Lucero...he drew with Marquez and Barrera didnt even have a belt.
              At 112, he beat Chatchai Sasakul, for the WBC.
              3 of the 4 you suggested were not linear welterweight titles.
              Being considered the best at a given weight and winning the lineal title are different things.
              Hatton won the lineal title at 140. He won it from Kotya he never lossed the title until Pac. Hatton lossed to Floyd at 147. He kept his lineal title at 140. And, lossed it to Pac.

              Pac won his lineal title at 126 against Barrera. Both Barrera and Tapia got stripped for trying to unify the titles. But, Barrera was still the lineal champion and Pac beat him.

              Pac won the lineal championship at 112, 126, 130, and 140. I can't believe you trying to argue this.

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              • nelsoncm
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                #117
                Originally posted by sycomantz
                *******s are flooding this thread of course.

                pathetic fools. they hate the fact that Pac and cotto were fighting for a shot at Floyd, not the other way around

                floyd is the king of the hill and they hate it
                Ask Floyd what made him king.

                When he says he's the best fighter in the history of boxing, Floyd stans immediately sing their praises.

                Floyd was supposed to fight the monster Cotto, yet it took a featherweight to do it.

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                • sycomantz
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by nelsoncm
                  Ask Floyd what made him king.

                  When he says he's the best fighter in the history of boxing, Floyd stans immediately sing their praises.

                  Floyd was supposed to fight the monster Cotto, yet it took a featherweight to do it.
                  cotto was never a monster. when floyd wanted cotto, cotto and his team took a pass...dont forget

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by sycomantz
                    cotto was never a monster. when floyd wanted cotto, cotto and his team took a pass...dont forget
                    Why did Floyd P4P king want to fight a green Cotto. What about when Cotto beat Shane and P4P top 10 and #1 contender, and enter elite status. And, Larry asked Floyd about Cotto. Floyd then I will not let boxing I will retire from boxing. don't forget about that...

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                    • project xxx1
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                      #120
                      for me they are both great fighters already and legands.but if this fight dont happen while both fighters are at the top of their game,their legacy will not be complete

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