Haye Outpoints Valuev in Tedious Fashion, Snatches Title

[Odawg]

Valuev's aggression was totally innefective. He didn't land a single clean power punch in the entire fight, and he landed very few clean jabs.

The top criterion is clean and effective punches landed. Haye landed considerably more of those than Valuev. The second top criterion is effective aggression, but neither fighter showed any of that so on that score it was even. The third top criterion is defence, and both showed equally good defence. The final criterion is ring generalship and Haye won on that score hands down.



Valuev landed even fewer clean punches and far fewer effective ones.



He didn't because his right hand was injured in the second round.



He lost those rounds on the cards. There were only a couple where he literally landed nothing though.


As for Cotto, we'll see ...

i disagree on some of the points u mentioned but your entitled to your opinion, and yes we can i agree on one thing, nov 14th we will see shame im new to this **** some easy points i could earn there

[P4P Opinion]

I really didn't think it was that close. Valuev barely landed anything of note and took some big shots in most of the rounds. Am I supposed to give credit for missed punches and superior height now? I had it 116 - 112 like the two judges who scored it for Haye. It certainly wasn't a fantastic performance, but it was a good example of getting tactics right.

[southpaw_07]

K-bros next !

[beez721]

He had an injured right hand for most of the fight. Even so, he came closer than anyone ever has before to putting Valuev down.

I dont trust haye that he hurt his hand. just like the supposed injury he suffered in training for wlad that he couldnt back up

[Xcusemymood]

Yeah.. Valuev was Mr Excitement.

LOL. Nice one.

[Xcusemymood]

correction. Did what he wanted to do. He could have actually fought.

lololololol so true!

[xzworks]

valuev workrate is to the max in this fight IMO..

[Xcusemymood]

So, should I bother watching this fight or save myself the torture? It sounds like Haye won but in horrible fashion.

Not really worth it. Im kind of bummed I was the one who found a stream online and told my friends to watch it. They were pissed.

[Xcusemymood]

He was one-handed for most of the fight because his right hand was badly injured in the second round. Even so, he tried to KO Valuev, hurt him several times, and came closer to putting him down than anyone ever has before. Floyd never goes for the knock-out unless it's completely risk-free. He could have KO'd Marquez if he'd been willing to take any risks to do it, but he wasn't.

I definetly wouldnt say Haye took anymore risks than Floyd in that fight. If anything he played it safer and threw 1/10th of the punches. Sure the opponents probably presented different risks.....in fact I dont like the comparison at all. But Haye was the one not opening up.

[Xcusemymood]

You forget that at the same time Floyd is setting punch stat records landing at almost 60%. And Dirrel outlanded Froch more than 3-1 so The offence is there, your just mad because people can't hit them.

Green K. At least those dudes throw punches.

Im not trying to **** on Haye here because I like him and think hes exciting normally. I understand he was fighting an awkward fighter, but that was a truley dreadful fight to watch.