Haye Outpoints Valuev in Tedious Fashion, Snatches Title

[Dave Rado]

hmm Cliff Rold thats not very accurate is it :

causing a pause in the giant before Valuev shook his head and then began his march forward again.

i think you need to watch it again but this time take the biased shades off!

Valuev got ROCKED, STUMBLED , DONE THE CHICKEN DANCE and would of been knocked down if the ref didnt jump in!

Arent you boxing writers meant to be impartial?

You're talking about round 12, Cliff was talking about round 2. Learn to read.

[HeaneyCFC]

I hope this fight will finally put to rest the myth that it's impossible to get a decision in Germany, even when the judges are all from neutral countries. Two of the judges had it 116-112 to Haye, whereas most analysts had it much closer than that (Cliff scored it a draw), and a few even had Valuev in the lead. I had Haye winning, but very narrowly.

As long as the judges are from neutral countries, anyone who deserves to win can win in Germany, and this fight proves it.

It's going to take more than one fight to change Germanys reputation. Judges from neutral countries have far too often scored fights horribly in Germany most likely due to some judges and organisations having a 'special' relationship with certain promoters. For every fair decision in Germany, there's 10 more dubious ones

[butler878]

whatever haye said it was never going to be an exciting fight. Haye probably made the best of a bad situation. hopefully we'll now see some exciting hw fights

on a side note i think the holyfield robbery probably helped haye in that no judges wanted to be seen to be associated with another bad decision in germany and were probably slightly too favourable to haye

[T-97]

hmm Cliff Rold thats not very accurate is it :

causing a pause in the giant before Valuev shook his head and then began his march forward again.

i think you need to watch it again but this time take the biased shades off!

Valuev got ROCKED, STUMBLED , DONE THE CHICKEN DANCE and would of been knocked down if the ref didnt jump in!

Arent you boxing writers meant to be impartial?

You're referring to the left hand that landed in Round 12, not the first right hand landed by Haye, in the 2nd Round...

[T-97]

David Haye put on his running shoes, its okay when David Haye fights like a boring **** and barely throws any punches. But when Vitali throws over 800 punches against Arreola, he is some how boring to you ppl.

Vitali has a higher work-rate then David Haye and would kill him in the ring by accident, David Haye would not be able to run from Vitali because Vitali would break him.

No one's saying Haye was exciting tonight, he is however, an exciting fighter most of the time.

[Cyse]

This is some bull****! Valuev won! Now I gotta pay out 5k in points!

Son of a beeech!

[Dave Rado]

It's going to take more than one fight to change Germanys reputation. Judges from neutral countries have far too often scored fights horribly in Germany most likely due to some judges and organisations having a 'special' relationship with certain promoters. For every fair decision in Germany, there's 10 more dubious ones

If you're only talking about fights in Germany where the ref and judges were from neutral countries, then I don't think Germany has a higher proportion of robberies than the US does. If anything I'd say the US is worse.

[bojangles1987]

So, should I bother watching this fight or save myself the torture? It sounds like Haye won but in horrible fashion.

[legalaffairs]

you can tell that this guy wanted valuev to win, as per his prediction. hes proably bitter that he called it wrong.

[Dave Rado]

No one's saying Haye was exciting tonight, he is however, an exciting fighter most of the time.

With a badly injured right hand he had an excuse to not be exciting. I don't think he was boring though.