Why does Calzaghe get bashed for fighting in Europe...

[Kris Silver]

Becuase at the time Calzaghe shouldve been fighting the best (who were in the U.S) he stayed in Europe fighting Eurobums to pad his record out.

Whether there is more cash to be made in Europe I dont know but are you seriously telling me that when B-Hop and Jones reigned there was anyone from Europe who were better competition?

Do me a favour? He fought Tocker Pudwell for god sake.

The best America had in the SMW division when he was fighting, included the likes of Charles Brewer, a previous SMW champion, Byron Mitchell, also a previous SMW champion, and Jeff Lacy - a SMW champion whom was widely favoured to murder Calzaghe, I'm sure even by you. Calzaghe clearly beat all of those.

As far as Hopkins, Calzaghe had a fight done with Hopkins in 2002 and Hopkins pulled out, then faced a much lesser opponent for less money, in America.

As for Roy Jones, here's just one quote on that..

""I am the best super-middleweight in the world and I am out to prove that I am the best fighter on the planet. If Jones disagrees, lets get it on,"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wales/921983.stm

All of this is widely available information I'm sure your clued up on though.

Oh, and Tocker Pudwill was a literal last minute fill in for Thomas Tate, a reasonably good American SMW whom pulled out.

[Sir Tom Jones]

Calzaghe beats everyone on Hopkins resume.

Exactly.:****you:

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because bums are better in America apparently.

[The Hammer]

Because bums are better in America apparently.

yes, there is definitely a double standard.

[Spacey1991]

When B-Hop, Mayweather, Dawson and many other American fighters WILL NEVER leave the US?

Boxing draws bigger crowds in Europe than the US, and they could make bigger paydays...

Calzaghe actually left his home country of Wales many times, fighting in England, Scotland, Denmark, Germany and the US (twice).

But Dawson gave up his WBC title because he was afraid to fight a prime Diaconu in Romania, and instead chose to fight old Tarver in the US. The people who bash Calzaghe never mention that...

Is there a double standard for Americans and non-Americans?

It is double standards, but in all fairness the best way to make it big is going over to the US and fighting, its just how it is. I get what your saying though.

[W1LL]

The rest of the world know how great Joe was, it's only the Americans with their arrogance who take a while to admit it. Was the same with Lennox Lewis.

[Scary]

i cant remember ??? did he ?

Nope... He didn't... Kessler fight was in Cardiff.

[dans]

yes, there is definitely a double standard.

Why is Calzaghe fighting in the UK any different from American fighters fighting in other states? Just because the territory lines are tighter in Europe doesn't mean these guys are traveling more than American boxers.

The problem is, you're using a double standard to prove another double standard. You saying Calzaghe fought in other countries like England and Scotland is like me considering Connecticut a country and saying Dawson fights in other countries when he fights in New York or New Jersey (theoretically speaking).

You're applying your own double standard here Tunney. America is huge compared to most European countries, yet you're considering it equal to a country like Wales that is tiny. So basically, just because Calzaghe lives in a tiny country and it's close to get to other countries, he's more road tested than these American fighters.

[Kris Silver]

America is much bigger than those countries. You say Calzaghe fought in England, Scotland, Denmark, etc. But for instance from Cardiff to London is 130 miles, about 2 hours. The distance from Cardiff to Scotland is about 300 miles. The difference from Cardiff to Denmark is about 500 miles.

So you saying that Calzaghe fought in other countries including those is like saying Chad Dawson fought in New Jersey, which is about 2 hours from Connecticut.

And then here's the kicker, Calzaghe's furthest fight besides going to America, is going to Germany and Denmark, which are around 500 miles from Cardiff. Calzaghe fighting in Denmark and Germany is about the same as Dawson fighting in Pittsburgh.

Don't penalize American fighters because they live in a bigger country. Dawson fighting in Vegas is over 2,000 from his home. Sorry American fighters don't call themselves road warriors for fighting in the next state over.

Cardiff to Edinburgh is more like 400 miles. And when he fought in England, despite being born in England, Calzaghe was sometimes spat at by the English fans when entering the Ring. That's within Britain. Not quite the cosey close together supporters of local euro fighters you suggest may be the case. He may have even received better treatment travelling thousands of miles to Abu Dhabi.

What does this tell us?

That dude, it's not about the distance. It's not a competition of miles. That is rather ridiculous.

It's a matter of different countries. Different cultures, people, supporters.

You say don't penalise American boxers for living in a bigger country, if one travels 500 miles within the US for a fight great, but it's still the same country, ultimately. It's noway near the same as travelling 500 miles into a completely different country, culture, set of people, fans, language, with most of the crowd against you, shouting abuse in a foreign language.

[Sir Tom Jones]

Nope... He didn't... Kessler fight was in Cardiff.

do some bloody research lol.



he was on the tyson undercard.