Paul Williams-Sergio Martinez Will Be at 160-pounds

[Ray*]

I'm not sure why you're telling me this.

Lmao that was so irrelevant its untrue.

[mathed]

I'm not sure why you're telling me this.

"Martinez is a very interesting opponent style-wise but I doubt he wins. Williams has his flaws but after all that he's been through, he'll be looking to take it out on whoever stands in front of him."

I guess I thought you were saying that Martinez would lose because he has been through less, experience-wise than Williams. I now see that I misunderstood, assuming that you meant all the crap he has been through trying to get a fight signed, lol. My bad.....

[Nobuhiro Sugoi]

Martinez has no chance, Williams alone is bad but he will be in with an angry Paul. After the win Paul moves to #2 P4P on my list.

[mathed]

Martinez has no chance, Williams alone is bad but he will be in with an angry Paul. After the win Paul moves to #2 P4P on my list.

Where is Pacquiao in that pic???? lol

[Iceta]

Martinez has no chance, Williams alone is bad but he will be in with an angry Paul. After the win Paul moves to #2 P4P on my list.

I think Williams is a top 5 P4P fighter as it stands now. The guy just can't catch a break. You tell me if making efforts to get in the ring with Pavlik and Martinez is less impressive than going after little Pacquiao. Remember that P4P means either being able to compete at higher weights effectively or being dominant in one weight class. Cotto and Mayweather meet none of those criterias. Have Mayweather, Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley, or Hopkins been fighting guys higher than their natural weight division? No. Sure Paul started at 160, but he is not a big Middleweight by any means. Like I said, the only reason why he is making this guy move up in weight is because Pavlik pulled out of their fight.

Let's see Mosley or Cotto look good at 154. I haven't seen it yet except for when Mosley KOd Vargas twice. Cotto hasn't even tried to fight at 154. No hate from me for that, but he has already fought everybody he needs to fight at 147. And he needs to move up if a rematch with Mosley can't be made. No more interesting opponents at 147 for him.

[Dambala]

He gets to make more money that way, even if Martinez loses his excuse will be I'm not a 160 pound fighter. And then he'll move back down protect his belt and I do believe you make more money when you're a belt-holder. Boxing is hilarious because this fight is not even a true fight, its just clearly a business move from both of their perspectives.

Good point.

[handler000]

This is obviously a disadvantage for Martinez and a major advantage for Williams. williams will come in at 175 on fight night. Martinez will be 154 because thats his weightclass. This fight won't prove anything for Williams but if Martinez wins thats impressive.

He came in at 157 for Winky. What makes you think he will be 18 lbs. heavier for this fight?

[handler000]

I think Williams is a top 5 P4P fighter as it stands now. The guy just can't catch a break. You tell me if making efforts to get in the ring with Pavlik and Martinez is less impressive than going after little Pacquiao. Remember that P4P means being able to compete at higher weights effectively. Have Mayweather, Cotto, Mosley, or Hopkins been doing that? No. Sure Paul started at 160, but he is not a big Middleweight by any means. Like I said, the only reason why he is making this guy move up in weight is because Pavlik pulled out of their fight.

Let's see Mosley or Cotto look good at 154. I haven't seen it yet except for when Mosley KOd Vargas twice. Cotto hasn't even tried to fight at 154. No hate from me for that, but he has already fought everybody he needs to fight at 147. And he needs to move up if a rematch with Mosley can't be made. No more interesting opponents at 147 for him.

Cotto has reached his weight limit. He is 5'7 with a 67 inch reach. Him going up to 154 is almost like JMM fighting at WW.

[elliot0214]

PWILL by TKO

[Bhopreign]

Remember that P4P means being able to compete at higher weights effectively.

Thats not what it means.