Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

[Kevin Jesus]

Lol Hopkins has never been beaten up.

Not even when he lost decisively to RJJ, he didn't get beat up.

He's 44 and fighting guys who are in top 10 P4P.

When he fought them:
Pavlik Top 5 P4P, Calzaghe P4P #1, Winky Wright was highly rated in everyone's P4P list, Tarver was the number 1 LHW of the world with recent wins over Johnson, Woods and Jones, Trinidad was P4P top 10 too.

He fought those guys and came out with a 4-1 record, all P4P top fighters of the world at the moment he fought them.

[djtmal]

Lol Hopkins has never been beaten up.

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whats the chance of a natural lightheavy even getting stunned by a middleweight...

[Adamantium]

Lol Hopkins has never been beaten up.

Not even when he lost decisively to RJJ, he didn't get beat up.

He's 44 and fighting guys who are in top 10 P4P.

When he fought them:
Pavlik Top 5 P4P, Calzaghe P4P #1, Winky Wright was highly rated in everyone's P4P list, Tarver was the number 1 LHW of the world with recent wins over Johnson, Woods and Jones, Trinidad was P4P top 10 too.

He fought those guys and came out with a 4-1 record, all P4P top fighters of the world at the moment he fought them.

The p4p system is an imaginary system, based on the criteria of who would win if all the boxers were the same size. It dosent mean the boxers ranked should fight each other.

[djtmal]

Lol Hopkins has never been beaten up.

Not even when he lost decisively to RJJ, he didn't get beat up.

He's 44 and fighting guys who are in top 10 P4P.

When he fought them:
Pavlik Top 5 P4P, Calzaghe P4P #1, Winky Wright was highly rated in everyone's P4P list, Tarver was the number 1 LHW of the world with recent wins over Johnson, Woods and Jones, Trinidad was P4P top 10 too.

He fought those guys and came out with a 4-1 record, all P4P top fighters of the world at the moment he fought them.

3 of those wins against fighters who had to move up two divisions, 1 loss against a fighter close to his size with equal talent...1 legit win was tarver, who had just came off the movie set with stallone, but we'll overlook that...i see you selectively left out the two losses to taylor, which would make his record 4-3...

[Kevin Jesus]

3 of those wins against fighters who had to move up two divisions, 1 loss against a fighter close to his size with equal talent...1 legit win was tarver, who had just came off the movie set with stallone, but we'll overlook that...i see you selectively left out the two losses to taylor, which would make his record 4-3...

Winky Wright moved up one division, Pavlik moved up two, Trinidad moved up one, Hopkins moved up two to fight Tarver, Calzaghe moved up one div.

So you said three of those fighters moved up two divisions, explain yourself.

[Adamantium]

Winky Wright moved up one division, Pavlik moved up two, Trinidad moved up one, Hopkins moved up two to fight Tarver, Calzaghe moved up one div.

So you said three of those fighters moved up two divisions, explain yourself.

Anything between 169-175 is lhw. So technically he moved up two divisions.

[BALLISTIC]

funny shiet....to the thread starte....holding head butting..

yes he shouldnt even be on the top 10 p4p..forreals if anything jones jr should..

hopkins MW and LWH

jones went as far as HW

[JakeNDaBox]

show me where hopkins called joppy out before the tournament...i know i never saw anything...

Hopkins was always calling for full unification.

Joppy and Holmes never called out anyone other than... Holmes and Joppy. King stole as much as he could from Showtime in order to build up any sort of interest in their crosstown rivalry. Guess what? The fight never happened, and each remained tucked away in King's stable until he was finally ready to pimp them out.

[djtmal]

Winky Wright moved up one division, Pavlik moved up two, Trinidad moved up one, Hopkins moved up two to fight Tarver, Calzaghe moved up one div.

So you said three of those fighters moved up two divisions, explain yourself.

winky wright fought nard at lightheavy coming up from middleweight at a catchweight (2 divisions), same with pavlik...

nard's 160 lb reign was a farce, since he was a scaled down lightheavy...EVERYBODY he fought at 160 was at least two divisions smaller..

[Kevin Jesus]

Anything between 169-175 is lhw. So technically he moved up two divisions.

170 is closer to SMW, it's actually only 2 pounds away from SMW and 5 away from LHW.

Anyways you said three, so who's the third one that moved up two divisions?


Checkmate.